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lansing fan
07-20-2007, 04:30 AM
Hello.

I am searching for a filter/crossover for my 3 way altec speaker system.
The filters that i have are not original and not the same.
What is the best to do for my altec speakers?
Meby active with a crossover?
Or a filter of the speakers from the last picture.

the drivers are:

HF 299-8A
HF MR902-16HF
LF 3156 16 inch (2)

Greets.

yggdrasil
07-20-2007, 04:40 AM
The easy way will be an active crossover.

Besides that I can recommend starting with Vance Dickason's Loudspeaker design cookbook.

lansing fan
07-20-2007, 04:44 AM
Do i need 3 amps to do that.?

one low
one mid
one high



The easy way will be an active crossover.

Besides that I can recommend starting with Vance Dickason's Loudspeaker design cookbook.

JBL 4645
07-20-2007, 04:48 AM
Hello and welcome. Have you, consider an electronic active crossover which can be tailored to thee specifies of the loudspeaker.

yggdrasil
07-20-2007, 04:52 AM
Do i need 3 amps to do that.?

one low
one mid
one high
Yes, you need 3 amps.

There are a number of threads with experiences of different active crossovers and amplifiers for different drivers.

What is your budget?

JBL 4645
07-20-2007, 04:53 AM
Do i need 3 amps to do that.?

one low
one mid
one high

Yes and one easy affordable solution would be the Behinger DCX2496
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w118/Brainstorm3417/BEHR-DCX2496_L.jpg

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w118/Brainstorm3417/BEHR-DCX2496_B.jpg

Three amplifiers would indeed be need three matching amplifiers the unit as assorted use of crossover filters to choice from and there very effective.:)

You could ever time delay each loudspeaker element you’ll hear lower lows and higher highs.

lansing fan
07-20-2007, 05:02 AM
Hello.

Thanks for al the info.

I've got 2 BSS FDS-360 crossovers.
And 2 BSS FDS-340.

But the 299-8a and the MR902-16HF need a different curve.
Can i do that all with the Behinger DCX2496 ?

Thanks

http://www.loudandclear.com/S00/Pictures/FDS360.jpg






Yes and one easy affordable solution would be the Behinger DCX2496
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w118/Brainstorm3417/BEHR-DCX2496_L.jpg

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w118/Brainstorm3417/BEHR-DCX2496_B.jpg

Three amplifiers would indeed be need three matching amplifiers the unit as assorted use of crossover filters to choice from and there very effective.:)

You could ever time delay each loudspeaker element you’ll hear lower lows and higher highs.

JBL 4645
07-20-2007, 05:20 AM
Use those ones mate I see it’s got an audio limiter for loudspeaker protection very nice.:applaud:

I’m not sure what crossover filters are on the (BSS) with the (DCX2496) you can select from (Butterworth) (Bessel) and (Linkwitz-Riley) from 6db to 48db octave.

Edit
I just conducted a search I take it you bought it second-hand maybe? Well I found this information about the (BSS FDS 360).

http://www.bssaudio.com/includes/product_sheet_include.aspx?product_id=29 (http://www.bssaudio.com/includes/product_sheet_include.aspx?product_id=29)

http://www.bssaudio.com/attachments/pdf/datasheets/Fds360ds.pdf

boputnam
07-20-2007, 09:02 AM
I've got 2 BSS FDS-360 crossovers.
And 2 BSS FDS-340.Since you've established you have discerning taste ;) , I suggest you stay with either of the BSS loudspeaker processors (DSP's) (http://www.bssaudio.com/includes/product_list_include.aspx?header_id=6&archived_flag=0). These are very nice sounding and powerful units.

You haven't mentioned you application - is this for home use? If so, few DSPs, regardless of quality/price, are commonly deployed in an audiophile setting. Some are, certainly, but if so it is best to stay with top quality. SR applications can "get away" with stuff you shouldn't try at home... ;)

Also, you mention "needing" different curves - do you mean slopes? If so, the DSP's may be the best way to go unless you can set / alter your analogue crossovers.

If you have access to proper measurement gear, you can add time-alignment to your goals. Nice... :yes:

Zilch
07-20-2007, 10:44 AM
Do passive compensation/contouring for your mids and highs, then drive with your BSS.

Alternatively, the Behringer DCX has limited parametric EQ, which may be enough to get you where you need to go.

JBL 4645
07-20-2007, 11:35 PM
Do passive compensation/contouring for your mids and highs, then drive with your BSS.

Alternatively, the Behringer DCX has limited parametric EQ, which may be enough to get you where you need to go.

We’re talking about when using the crossover filters where it takes up the free% I have only a few engaged on the unit now while in active cross over mode. Oh well looks like a new 1/3 octave in the future to deal with a few tiny things.