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oldsoundz
05-29-2007, 11:28 AM
Because if it is, I was unaware. I have seen a number of people list items for sale in the marketplace. However, this morning I was called (low) for doing so.

Hopefully, I will get a straight answer. Because if mentioning an item for sale on this forum is somehow a bad thing, I'd like to know so that I don't do it again.

I guess maybe it's only cool if another member sees your stuff and posts the link.

Man I'm confused. Someone straighten me out.

Audiobeer
05-29-2007, 11:34 AM
Originaly in the old days a member would offer it here. If it didn't sell it would go to ebay. There are no rules and that's just my take. To just post here saying you have it on Ebay is kind of out of line if done with any regularity, as the marketplace is for selling here, not elsewhere.

Fred Sanford
05-29-2007, 12:15 PM
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[URL="http://www.audioheritage.org/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=58"]General Audio Marketplace (http://www.audioheritage.org/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=58)
Notices of non Lansing audio gear for sale, auction or wanted.

(http://www.audioheritage.org/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=58)Lansing Product Marketplace (http://www.audioheritage.org/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=5)
Notices of items for sale, auction or wanted for Lansing products only
(http://www.audioheritage.org/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=58)

Direct quote from Don McRitchie:


For example, do not announce your Ebay auctions in the "General" forum. The "Marketplace" forum was specifically designed for this type of post.


...seems to me like you're using it exactly as instructed.

je

boputnam
05-29-2007, 02:21 PM
Man I'm confused. Someone straighten me out.
oldsounz...

You are doing it exactly right.

The only negative issue we had was people popping up here and bragging about the splendiferous X4519 MTM and how it was simply the most rare and best speaker ever. Then, we would find that exact model on eBay.

If it helps you market your eBay auction of JBL or related stuff, please do come here! You will hopefully find the right audience.

moldyoldy
05-29-2007, 03:02 PM
Since I was the "caller", I'll explain.

The post read something like;

"416-8B Altec on eBay, one day left, price still pretty low"

Followed by a link to what turns out to be the poster's own active auction.

So, what appeared to be a helpful "heads-up" to other members turned out to be nothing but a gratuitous effort to get more bids on your own item.

Deceptive, plain and simple.

Just like the first post in this thread...

Won't be a repetitive problem for me though, I'm familiar with the "Ignore" function.

boputnam
05-29-2007, 03:10 PM
"416-8B Altec on eBay, one day left, price still pretty low"

Followed by a link to what turns out to be the poster's own auction.Well, I cannot comment on that being intentionally deceitful or merely an intentional omission since the LH poster and eBay seller relationship was easily sussed out.

moldyoldy
05-29-2007, 03:19 PM
....intentionally deceitful or merely an intentional omission...

Out here in the country, they're one-and-the-same.

boputnam
05-29-2007, 03:53 PM
Out here in the country, they're one-and-the-same.:rotfl:

Anyway...
...the LH poster and eBay seller relationship was easily sussed out....as you proved with a quick lookie at the auction.

Let's find an egregious case to trial our sleuthing on...

mbd7
05-29-2007, 04:06 PM
I've done both, but of course I'd rather sell my "baby's" to someone here than to some cannibal on ebay. I always give at least 10% of my sells to the LH Forum. Plus I believe that this forum is a 501(c)3 corp. and is tax deductible as charity. Someone (Bo) please correct me if I'm wrong.

oldsoundz
05-29-2007, 05:54 PM
Since I was the "caller", I'll explain.

The post read something like;

"416-8B Altec on eBay, one day left, price still pretty low"

Followed by a link to what turns out to be the poster's own active auction.

So, what appeared to be a helpful "heads-up" to other members turned out to be nothing but a gratuitous effort to get more bids on your own item.

Deceptive, plain and simple.

Just like the first post in this thread...

Won't be a repetitive problem for me though, I'm familiar with the "Ignore" function.

But I guess it just proves that you cant please them all. If I was trying to be deceptive I would have 2 forum Id's and I would have noted all of my auctions currently listed. As it was, I listed the auction that I felt was more important, and more in line with the cost most forum members would spend. I know most members of this forum are not willing/wanting to pay what I asked for my 076 JBL's. so I didn't bother posting them. The fact that I did not immediately claim the speakers as my own, was not being deceptive.

And how is the first thread in this post deceptive?

Thanks to those who have defended me.

Low?

boputnam
05-29-2007, 07:02 PM
...I believe that this forum is a 501(c)3 corp. and is tax deductible as charity. Someone (Bo) please correct me if I'm wrong.Technically, yes; actually, I don't know. It has never been told me how this is constructed, other than loosely (and I mean no disrespect with that).

That said, it is in the interest of forumites to have sellers alert us of their activities. Posting something in either Marketplace is a de facto advertisement, and is more-or-less understood to be a promote. Some of us post there as third party to alert the forum to something we have stumbled across, but have no financial interest in.

The issue has never been posting in Marketplace - the issue had been poser posters promoting splendiferous speakers in OTHER, non-marketplace areas, while themselves offering contemporaneuosly the same or like goods for sale on an Internet auction / want ads site. That is disingenuous, and we sorta hate that, pretty much unanimously.

Gary L
05-29-2007, 07:57 PM
I have no real problem with it but your word "Tacky" does ring my bell in this situation.

I have seen my own auctions posted here by others and felt obligated to ID myself as the seller. I would not however post my own auction link in an effort to generate more interest.

To each his own and as long as it is not a direct violation, carry on.
I generally just skip such threads once I get the connection.

On another front, I am one of those who appear in your watchers list at the auction. Won't be bidding but this is how I stay updated on values.

Gary

boputnam
05-29-2007, 09:36 PM
I have seen my own auctions posted here by others and felt obligated to ID myself as the seller. Cool.


I would not however post my own auction link in an effort to generate more interest.
That is your choice, but the Marketplace areas were established just for that purpose. It is the Fleamarket, man - that is the intent.

richluvsound
05-30-2007, 02:18 AM
I have an important auction on at the moment. I did'nt want to place them in the market place as I was unsure of the protocol around this practice.
I also paid far too much for them. I'm trying to recoupe as much as possible.
I would prefer they stayed in the family. They have been relisted once . With one day to go and still no bids , I would like to offer them here at lesser price.
I'm not a flipper . I dug myself a bit of a hole with my 4345 project and this is a way out. The 4345's are worth the stress though :applaud:
Rich

Gary L
05-30-2007, 05:39 AM
but the Marketplace areas were established just for that purpose. It is the Fleamarket, man


Thanks for the clarification on this! I have been elsewhere where it was "Not OK to post your own Auction".

I take back my "Tacky" remark and must admit it was rather "Tacky" of me dragging over-moderated rules from one place to another!

Gary

kingjames
05-30-2007, 10:14 AM
What we all have to remember here is that items offered to members is a gift of sorts and not a requirement.Sometimes members here think they should get items cheaper than other people and in most cases this is true. No one has to sell their stuff cheaper here if that is their intent and because it is posted here doesn't mean it's gonna be cheaper.

I would hope that the marketplace is one of the area's or the fringe benefits of a contribution to this site.I have sold a few item's to members cheaper than I could have gotten on ebay but I was able to do it on those items because I made up for it on other items. Sometimes I am not able to do this because their is no profit.

I already know that if I post something here for sale it is expected to go cheaper than it would go on Ebay,why is that?I don't post much stuff here anyway and the stuff that I do I offer it is for what I paid for it or a little over such as my XPL140's.

The consensus on this forum is that we as members should get it cheaper and sometimes that's just not possible.

I see nothing wrong with posting items in the marketplace for sale as it still gives us the first oppurtunity to get these items even if the asking price is the same as listed on Ebay. A hard to find part or a much needed part can in most case's be bought this way but don't expect to get it cheaper just because you're a member of this site.

This is why most members here post on Ebay because of the expectations of some of the members here.

I enjoy this site very much and have little knowledge of the basic workings of speakers so I am not able to talk someone through a DIY project and I have received help from this forum on some issues that I had concerning my wares.I do appreciate the help that I have received and sometimes I feel I need to give back to the forum for this, notice I said the forum not the members.

I think if the expectations of cheaper prices is removed you will see some hard to find parts listed here first but the way things are now they will always land on Ebay under a different name.


Moderator's please delete if you feel this is off topic.

4313B
05-30-2007, 10:40 AM
Oh hell no! Why would it be? I view it as giving a heads up to this forum. I realize some guys have Lansing Heritage, AudioKarma, AV Forum, Klipsch Forum and eBay all open at the same time 24/7/365 and they aren't going to miss anything but the rest of us might only be on one site at a time and only during certain times of the day so if we see it here 1st and then go to eBay that's fine. I personally appreciate the effort.

I know most members of this forum are not willing/wanting to pay what I asked for my 076 JBL's. so I didn't bother posting them.That's not in your best interest. It's not in anyone elses either. Perhaps you don't have an appreciation for the worldwide draw this website has. Maybe you're only paying attention to the ten to twenty guys that blog this site and you are drawing an incorrect conclusion.