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VintageJBL300
04-24-2007, 09:52 PM
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Hello Gents,
I am selling a pair of all original L300's in near perfect condition. As part of my 30th birthday this summer I'll be visiting Europe and need to generate some additional cash for the trip. Unfortunately I have to sell these cherished L300s. I inherited the speakers from my dad who is a total audiophile, but I think he still laments giving them to me.

I've read through a handfull of posts here and am happy to tell you that this is not a scam. Before putting the speakers on Ebay I wanted to give you all the opportunity to own a true piece of audio history. I imagine most of you reading this post already know what the L300 Summit is and what kind of amazing sound it can produce, so there will be no laundry list of parts and selling points. Everything is original including the foam surrounding the drivers, which is in perfect condition. Aside from a very slight hairline scratch on one of the speakers smoke mirrored top surface, I think you'd be hard pressed to find a pair of 30 year old speakers in better condition, anywhere.

Please feel free to call or e mail with questions or offers. I'm looking to get at least $2500, but I don't check the board much so please e mail directly to ilanbrown@aol.com; I'm located in Denver CO. The speakers are currently in storage and require a fork lift to get down, so please don't ask me to open them and get you serial numbers.

Here 's the deal with shipping: I've used a company called Western Freightways several times before and feel very confidant with them, not to mention they have great prices. I can ship the speakers wrapped in heavy carton material, palletized, to a warehouse near you for roughly $250.

Storm
04-25-2007, 12:46 AM
PUT THE VACATION ON CREDIT CARDS...

KEEP THE SPEAKERS!

You will regret it...especially since they belonged to your father.

Good luck.

-Storm

:)




Hello Gents,
I am selling a pair of all original L300's in near perfect condition. As part of my 30th birthday this summer I'll be visiting Europe and need to generate some additional cash for the trip. Unfortunately I have to sell these cherished L300s. I inherited the speakers from my dad who is a total audiophile, but I think he still laments giving them to me.

I've read through a handfull of posts here and am happy to tell you that this is not a scam. Before putting the speakers on Ebay I wanted to give you all the opportunity to own a true piece of audio history. I imagine most of you reading this post already know what the L300 Summit is and what kind of amazing sound it can produce, so there will be no laundry list of parts and selling points. Everything is original including the foam surrounding the drivers, which is in perfect condition. Aside from a very slight hairline scratch on one of the speakers smoke mirrored top surface, I think you'd be hard pressed to find a pair of 30 year old speakers in better condition, anywhere.

Please feel free to call or e mail with questions or offers. I'm looking to get at least $2500, but I don't check the board much so please e mail directly to ilanbrown@aol.com; I'm located in Denver CO. The speakers are currently in storage and require a fork lift to get down, so please don't ask me to open them and get you serial numbers.

Here 's the deal with shipping: I've used a company called Western Freightways several times before and feel very confidant with them, not to mention they have great prices. I can ship the speakers wrapped in heavy carton material, palletized, to a warehouse near you for roughly $250.

John
04-25-2007, 01:15 AM
How bout a local inspection and pick up???:bouncy:


Hey Storm do we really need the double shot of all the original pictures from the first post of this thread???:banghead:

Mr. Widget
04-25-2007, 01:22 AM
Hey Storm do we really need the double shot of all the original pictures from the first post of this thread???:banghead:Since they were imbedded in the quote they appeared in Storm's post... I deleted them.


Widget

Storm
04-25-2007, 01:39 AM
How bout a local inspection and pick up???:bouncy:


Hey Storm do we really need the double shot of all the original pictures from the first post of this thread???:banghead:

:blah: :blah: :blah:

Zilch
04-25-2007, 01:42 AM
:blah: :blah: :blah:

Well, he's right Storm. Think about it -- was there some value contributed to your post by quoting ANY of the original?

Maybe the part about Europe, the first sentence, but you could have deleted the rest, I believe.

It's just that much more effort for the rest of us to scroll past the repetition.

*****

Soon as the pics fall outta photobucket, they'll become little red Xs, too.... :banghead:

hjames
04-25-2007, 04:09 AM
It's just that much more effort for the rest of us to scroll past the repetition.
*****
Soon as the pics fall outta photobucket, they'll become little red Xs, too.... :banghead:

And - then it takes longer to scroll through the forum as the browser waits for timeouts on the missing images ... with VERY few exceptions, if you can't post pictures directly into the forum, they probably shouldn't get posted

Really - how hard is it to download an image to your desktop, then upload it directly to the LH Forum?

I gotta say - those are some pretty looking L300s ... shame you have to sell them
Sounds like a cliche but - they really aren't making speakers like them anymore ...

BMWCCA
04-25-2007, 06:32 AM
Hey, One-Post-VintageJBL300,
Beautiful L300s. Unfortunately I'm putting two kids through college or I might consider them. But tell me one thing: Is that your SS# in photo #6, or your Dad's? I'd like to get the name straight on the credit card application I'm filing to pay for my European vacation! ;)

majick47
04-25-2007, 10:28 AM
Seems you priced the L300 at a very reasonable level considering the excellent condition and the $250 shipping is a big selling factor. It cost me quite a bit more when I had to have my L300 crated and shipped from Palm Springs CA. Dad's not going to be too happy to hear you sold his L300 to finance a trip to Europe. Europe might be for a week or two, the L300s are a speaker you keep till the day you die. Not trying to discourage the sale but I'd pass on a trip to Europe if I had to sell my L300.

clh1997
04-25-2007, 02:02 PM
Honestly: You should keep them, if you have any interest in listening to music in superb quality!
I had a pair just like yours, but sold them 18 years ago for app USD 3000 (kids on the way etc.)

I’ve regretted that (not the kids…) many times since that day – and realize that I’ll probably never get a pair again here in Europe.

And if you have to sell them: Sell them to your old man – and buy them back next year.

John
04-25-2007, 02:08 PM
[quote=clh1997;165135]

And if you have to sell them: Sell them to your old man – and buy them back next year.[/quote

My Dad never gave me anything audio related but if he did I just can't see myself saying. "hey dad you know the L300's you gave me a while ago? Well you can have them back if you pay me lot's of money!!!:banghead:

ttrhp
04-25-2007, 02:16 PM
Anyone have any experience comparing the L300 Vs the Metrogon?..I like the sound of the L300,but never heard the metrogon before..please advice..thanks

tom

sourceoneaudio
04-25-2007, 04:00 PM
Those are very nice. I wonder where they have been stored, if that foam is original it sure looks great. I wonder??? Beautiful speakers. By the condition they are in It will be very difficult, if not impossible to replace them later with a pair as mint.

J/S-S1A :D

macaroonie
04-25-2007, 04:39 PM
Very Cherry --- Never sell quality - a motto for life. Average out what your pop paid for those over the years on a per years basis he might be down $ 1 over the piece. And you have not even started yet.
I have a vintage Rolex Submariner that I paid £300 for in 1982 I still have it and it still keeps good time. In 25 years I have had it serviced once and some strap work done ( pins ) and I am now at a stage where I would not part with it. It would now get me £1700 all day long.
Work it out.
Keep 'em

spwal
04-25-2007, 07:12 PM
forget europe. its overated. you alread live in arguably the most beautiful albiet landlocked state in teh US of A.. what more do you want! :D

richluvsound
04-25-2007, 11:28 PM
forget europe. its overated. you alread live in arguably the most beautiful albiet landlocked state in teh US of A.. what more do you want! :D


Compared to those ,Europe is over-rated.Just skip London. That should save the $ 2,500 no problem . I could send you some pictures .And you could send me dem summits !:D

Rich

macaroonie
04-26-2007, 03:59 PM
Which sounds like SPEW ALL Europe is not over rated in fact it is where you got your language and the bulk of your heritage. The US is a place I love BUT is so insular with respect to other countries / continents sometimes it beggars belief. A small fact you may wish to digest -- only 17% of the American population hold passports ie. 83 % have never been outside the continental US. Also more people live in Europe than in the US but most have been to other countries than the one in which they live. The French are cantankerous but I would never condemn them for being fiercly French. One of the joys of France as an example is that there are hardly any McDonalds ( Spew All ) but lots of fantastic restaurants ( French word ) great cheese breads etc etc.
Please think before you speak. :p
I repeat I have a great love of the US but---

Now back to the point and in this we agree if this young man were to sell this pair of beautiful speakers ( US made ) he will regret it for a very long time.

Audiobeer
04-26-2007, 09:12 PM
I agree with your comments Macaroonie, but isn't the fellow that made the comments your reacting to from Europe?

spwal
04-26-2007, 09:24 PM
i am an american. i grew up 18 years in manila philippines as an expat and prior to that lived in cairo egypt, and ottowa canada. I have been to singapore, bangkok, lived in japan for a summer, multiple trips to hongkong. spent a summer on the east coast of china. I have been to london 3 times, paris once, barcelona, madrid, amsterdam, athens. been to mexico. am looking forward to going back to europe when i can.. and peru possibly this summer. i have been to more cities outside the us than inside the us.

which brings me back to my point that 2500 wont go far against the europe especially during peak season. i would just hold on to the speakers and save up for the trip.

ultimately, my comment, like all that i post in this great community, are in good fun :p

my apologies to any euros i may have offended in the forum.

richluvsound
04-27-2007, 12:31 AM
i am an american. i grew up 18 years in manila philippines as an expat and prior to that lived in cairo egypt, and ottowa canada. I have been to singapore, bangkok, lived in japan for a summer, multiple trips to hongkong. spent a summer on the east coast of china. I have been to london 3 times, paris once, barcelona, madrid, amsterdam, athens. been to mexico. am looking forward to going back to europe when i can.. and peru possibly this summer. i have been to more cities outside the us than inside the us.

which brings me back to my point that 2500 wont go far against the europe especially during peak season. i would just hold on to the speakers and save up for the trip.

ultimately, my comment, like all that i post in this great community, are in good fun :p

my apologies to any euros i may have offended in the forum.

SPAWL,

No offence taken by this particular European.
lifes too bloody short ! Carry on !
Rich

Krunchy
04-27-2007, 07:58 AM
Those are really nice speakers, the people here really do seem like they know what they are talking about. I would certainly give their comments serious consideration in respect to going through with the sale. Man I wish one of my get rich quick scams would come through for once ! :D

VintageJBL300
05-03-2007, 04:34 PM
Thank you all for your thoughtful advice and suggestions. I have carefully considered whether to go through with the sale and in the end I have decided that a true enthusiast will enjoy these speakers more than I. I have considered what value these speakers have to me as they sit on a warehouse shelf covered in plastic. In the end I think a true enthusiast should be the rightful owner of these iconic speakers. Therefore the L300 Summit Series speakers will be sold. I have had a number of very interested parties willing to pay significantly more than $2500 and to make the sale fair I will be posting the speakers on ebay. Thanks again for sharing your wisdom and I wish all those bidding the best of luck.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=015&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&viewitem=&item=250111379286&rd=1&rd=1

regards,

ilan

saeman
05-03-2007, 05:39 PM
From time to time I log on to read some outrageous post and I say "I Thought I've Seen Everything"

This clown comes to the forum to solicit the resources of it's members, offers his speakers for sale with a sob story of really not having room to properly enjoy them, has obviously had offers in the neighborhood of $2500 (which is going rate for a nice pair) and then posts them on ebay with a $4500 BIN.

And I thought I'd seen everything.

sourceoneaudio
05-03-2007, 05:43 PM
Must be some good SPLEEF he is smoking? :p

He must be shooting for a new record. So that would put MINT 250TI's at old retail for re-sale??????????????? :blink:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-JBL-L300-Summit-Speakers-Very-Rare-10-10-Cond_W0QQitemZ250111379286QQihZ015QQcategoryZ50597 QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

NO AFIL AT ALL::::!


J/S-S1A :D

SEAWOLF97
05-03-2007, 05:58 PM
Yeah, sing with me, sing for the year
sing for the laughter, sing for the tear
sing with me, if it's just for today
Maybe tomorrow, the good Lord will take you away

Dream On Dream On Dream On
Dream until your dream comes true
Dream On Dream On Dream On
Dream until your dream comes through
Dream On Dream On Dream On
Dream On Dream On
Dream On Dream On

mesickmoose
05-03-2007, 06:11 PM
price went up pretty quick....

jackgiff
05-03-2007, 06:34 PM
Thank you all for your thoughtful advice and suggestions. I have carefully considered whether to go through with the sale and in the end I have decided that a true enthusiast will enjoy these speakers more than I. I have considered what value these speakers have to me as they sit on a warehouse shelf covered in plastic. In the end I think a true enthusiast should be the rightful owner of these iconic speakers. Therefore the L300 Summit Series speakers will be sold. I have had a number of very interested parties willing to pay significantly more than $2500 and to make the sale fair I will be posting the speakers on ebay. Thanks again for sharing your wisdom and I wish all those bidding the best of luck.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=015&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&viewitem=&item=250111379286&rd=1&rd=1

regards,

ilan

Kind of makes the idea of an annual fee for joining this forum more palatable, doesn't it?

Jack Gifford :)

sourceoneaudio
05-03-2007, 06:37 PM
Kind of makes the idea of an annual fee for joining this forum more palatable, doesn't it?

Jack Gifford :)


Yup!


J/S-S1A :blink:

JBL Dog
05-03-2007, 07:10 PM
Yeah, sing with me, sing for the year
sing for the laughter, sing for the tear
sing with me, if it's just for today
Maybe tomorrow, the good Lord will take you away

Dream On Dream On Dream On
Dream until your dream comes true
Dream On Dream On Dream On
Dream until your dream comes through
Dream On Dream On Dream On
Dream On Dream On
Dream On Dream On

When are these morons going to figure out this forum is not the place to hunt if you're looking to make the big bucks. Everyone should know by now we buy at wholesale and sell at retail + 20%

Robh3606
05-03-2007, 07:16 PM
I think we should just stop giving away the store to these guys. If the only reason they are here are to flip stuff ignore them. They can do a search on Ebay just as easilly as we can.

Rob:)

oznob
05-03-2007, 07:24 PM
I blame "global warming" for these ridiculous prices on old speakers. Hell, everything else is being blamed on "global warming", why not that.:p I think it is frying some peoples brain and making them believe they have the "Holy grail" of speakers and that they are made of gold! L300's are a good speaker but, $4500, please!

VintageJBL300
05-04-2007, 11:02 AM
Wow you guys are harsh. I didn't realize I would be ridculed, called a clown and a moron for trying to maximize profit in the sale of these speakers. Since we all seem to watching ebay as a berometer of value on such items I think its worth mentioning that a pair of L300's in Michigan in far lesser condition than mine just whent for $3000. I've had two offers at $3000 and though the BIN price may be high it is an auction and no one has to pay that price. In the end my BIN price may be optimistic at best, but the negativity expressed by members of this community really leaves me wondering. Did I just stumbled into a group of unhappy middle age men looking for someone to vent upon? Since you all seem to value the summit series so much and regard those speakers as god's of the audio world I wouldn't think $4500 would be such a high price to pay for something you all seem to enjoy so much. I recently bought a classic Saab and payed close to 30% more than its book value. The mileage was especially low and the car was in impecable condition, so I didn't mind paying extra for something that was so well cared for. I wouldn't ridicule someone else for paying extra for an item which was special and rare. Sorry I ever posted.

mesickmoose
05-04-2007, 11:22 AM
I think its worth mentioning that a pair of L300's in Michigan in far lesser condition than mine just whent for $3000.


Far lesser condition? Have you listened to the ones we sold for $3K?

I know of many people that individuals may call a perfect "10" at first sight. But then when you get to know them and listen to them you find out you wished you were with the person that was an "8" with a few nicks and blemishes here or there.

I think the pair we sold is a 10 when it comes to sound reproduction. I think that our buyer will appreciate that when they are received.

BMWCCA
05-04-2007, 11:38 AM
I recently bought a classic Saab and payed close to 30% more than its book value.A fool and his money....

You should have bought a real car and kept your real speakers. No accounting for taste in this world, obviously.

You're exactly right WRT the disposition of your speakers. They're yours. Do with them as you wish. But if you can't figure out the animosity exhibited here, might I suggest you go back and read your first post? You offered them here first. You came obsequiously, but your promise of "Before putting the speakers on Ebay I wanted to give you all the opportunity to own a true piece of audio history" was obviously hollow and your ultimate response deserved the derision it garnered here. You came, you saw an opportunity, and you acted as an opportunist. After all the crap about giving those here an opportunity, and the heartfelt replies urging you to keep what you had, and your drivel invoking your father into the fray, you deserve what you're now getting. You got what you wanted, now take your lumps, chump! Enjoy your SCAB.

sourceoneaudio
05-04-2007, 11:58 AM
I recently bought a classic Saab and payed close to 30% more than its book value. Sorry I ever posted.

You might get lucky and find a buyer???????? :p A good example of things bringing good money in good to perfect, or restored condition, look at the Barrett Jackson Auction.
Real cars, not Saab's, and real money. Someone over seas might pay that for them, but you are way over current market value!

I/we forum members found a set in better shape than yours on AudiogoN about three months ago, the guy had them for sale for over 6 weeks for less than $2500.00 took him forever to sell them. So if your reserve is anywhere near that $4500.00 mark you'll probably be holding on to them for a long while.

P.S. Good luck with you Saab Story. I think the only thing you'll be sorry about is buying a H.O.S. like that.


J/S-S1A :D

Zilch
05-04-2007, 12:00 PM
We're ambivalent.

We know what they are, and their intrinsic worth.

We'd like the prices to stay low enough for them to be accessible.

We'd ALSO like the prices to skyrocket so that we can all retire comfortably.... :thmbsup:

Storm
05-04-2007, 12:09 PM
We're ambivalent.

We know what they are, and their intrinsic worth.

We'd like the prices to stay low enough for them to be accessible.

We'd ALSO like the prices to skyrocket so that we can all retire comfortably.... :thmbsup:

Exactly!

:applaud:

-Storm

kingjames
05-04-2007, 12:19 PM
Again this forum has helped a fly-by member sell his wares. I figure with the advice and amount of people who responded to your heart felt thread you owe this forum 10% of what you make for the bandwidth that you sucked up.Your intent as far as I'm concerned is very clear.You have deceived all here and you wonder why people are harsh:blink:

hjames
05-04-2007, 12:22 PM
Again this forum has helped a fly-by member sell his wares. I figure with the advice and amount of people who responded to your heart felt thread you owe this forum 10% of what you make for the bandwidth that you sucked up.Your intent as far as I'm concerned is very clear.You have deceived all here and you wonder why people are harsh

And if you expect such a capitalistic troll to develop guilt and actually contribute something here .... :blink:

JBLRaiser
05-04-2007, 12:25 PM
He reserves the right to end Ebay auction at any time. Yeah, I'm ready for a fee membership. :barf:

bigyank
05-04-2007, 01:45 PM
I have to agree with the membership idea. Guy wonders why everyone jumped all over him, come on get real! Won't mind a pair of these personally but wouldn't buy them off you if these were the last pair on earth (well maybe......).

25.00 annual membership dues would deter some of this and hey how about 100 posts before ANY sale is even allowed!:biting:

Yank

Zilch
05-04-2007, 02:20 PM
If y'all are saying you don't want to be a party to sleazy salesmanship, then don't participate, is all. It ain't as if it's not going to happen anyway.

The forum is deceived, manipulated, and exploited routinely. This is merely a blatant instance, lacking in the finesse of more skilled practitioners here.... ;)

grumpy
05-04-2007, 02:23 PM
Xzactamundo... -grumpy

Krunchy
05-04-2007, 02:51 PM
I think a $5-10 membership fee would be more than reasonable. It would do two things, maybe three.
First and foremost, it would help support this endeavor.
Second, it cull out certain aspects that have been discussed here and in other threads.
Third and foremost:D, it would help support this endeavor.

I do not know how many "active members" there are but if they/we all donated $5-10 bucks that would probably add up to quite a bit. Aslo, as an added winfall more people would seriously consider joining for such a small amount, more so than if the fee was 25-or higher. I probably would have hesitated at 25 but not for 5-10. What do you all think???:hmm:
didnt mean to side track, I only expanded upon the initial idea due to the fact that I've seen it brought up in other threads. Maybe this should be a separate thread.

Quick question-whats the deal with "non-posters". I dont get it? non-posters not good?

JBLRaiser
05-04-2007, 04:18 PM
If y'all are saying you don't want to be a party to sleazy salesmanship, then don't participate, is all. It ain't as if it's not going to happen anyway.

The forum is deceived, manipulated, and exploited routinely. This is merely a blatant instance, lacking in the finesse of more skilled practitioners here.... ;)

He came in offering a highly desirable speaker. If that offer is accepted in good faith(this is a place of good faith isn't it?), then pulling it out from an honest deal is sleazy. It's only after the fact that the truth is known. Regardless of how many times the forum is routinely exploited, this action should not be condoned nor tolerated. And verbally abusing him is presently the only option. A fee would help to remedy that. I've said enough on this subject.

sourceoneaudio
05-04-2007, 04:27 PM
Quick question-whats the deal with "non-posters". I don't get it? non-posters not good?


They take up space....................:p

J/S-S1A :die:

hjames
05-04-2007, 05:38 PM
I think the suspicion is that non-posters MAY be spare accounts for a spammer - put aside to sit until that one special moment with they rush out and drop their load like the chest buster in Alien.

Or it maybe someone who came in once and never returned ...

Or - it may be a read only member, who doesn't want to say anything and just comes to read

... or??




Quick question-whats the deal with "non-posters". I dont get it? non-posters not good?

SEAWOLF97
05-04-2007, 05:51 PM
IQuick question-whats the deal with "non-posters". I dont get it? non-posters not good?


one thing that NOBODY has touched on..

When you post a "for sale" thread in the marketplace forum, Google's spider picks that up and anyone searching Google sees the ad. If they are interested, the ONLY WAY they can respond is to register, and generally conduct business thru PM's and never do post.

Have been thru this scenario 4 or 5x.

jim campbell
05-04-2007, 06:10 PM
If y'all are saying you don't want to be a party to sleazy salesmanship, then don't participate, is all. It ain't as if it's not going to happen anyway.

The forum is deceived, manipulated, and exploited routinely. This is merely a blatant instance, lacking in the finesse of more skilled practitioners here.... ;)true enough,but if a few guys figger that a parting shot at these types is in order go for it.

hjames
05-04-2007, 06:13 PM
But that kind of guy got his info, got insulted so he could vent back and ease his conscience, and now he's gone. He won't be back to read their rant - but it makes us look petty to anyone new thats passing through later ...

A snide remark is forever in a forum ...


true enough,but if a few guys figger that a parting shot at these types is in order go for it.

sourceoneaudio
05-09-2007, 02:49 PM
L@@ks like shaggy got his reserve. Very low I might add considering he wanted $4500.00 BIN. :blink: UMMMMMMMMMMMM :hmm:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=015&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=250111379286&rd=1&rd=1


Jeff
J/S-S1A :bs:

soundboy
05-09-2007, 09:45 PM
Wow you guys are harsh. I didn't realize I would be ridculed, called a clown and a moron for trying to maximize profit in the sale of these speakers...... Sorry I ever posted.

Yeah, me too. I personally wonder why someone would sell a gift from their father, and a family heirloom for maximum profit.
Perhaps your daddy would....umm...by them back?:blink:
He's still alive, right?

spwal
05-13-2007, 06:50 PM
sold for 4150 plus 300 shipping. looks like he can go to europe via first class.

i shake my head. meanwhile altec 19s cant even sell for 1000 a pair. not a plug on my speakers, just a guy trying to grapple with the difference in price.

JBL Dog
05-13-2007, 07:48 PM
sold for 4150 plus 300 shipping.


eBay record?? I don't believe I've ever seen L300's hit $4k.

jim campbell
05-13-2007, 08:34 PM
well looking on the bright side they probably went to someone who cares about em................at that price he has to

Robh3606
05-13-2007, 09:15 PM
eBay record?? I don't believe I've ever seen L300's hit $4k.

Is it just me or has a lot of stuff been going high lately??

Rob:)

JBL Dog
05-13-2007, 09:45 PM
Is it just me or has a lot of stuff been going high lately??

Rob:)

Prices are up.... way up for certain items. It wasn't that long ago when only the mega-minty L300's would sell for $2500 - $3000. It looks like the bar has just been raised.

opimax
05-14-2007, 06:05 AM
with the exchange rate recently so high Europe costs a lot more to vacation in therefore to keep the speaker rate the same (1 set 300=2 week trip, one weekend=xpl 1600, etc)

Mark

jim campbell
05-14-2007, 07:17 AM
i wonder if some mathematically inclined guy with way too much free time could find out how many of the treasured models were actually manufactured and sold,and could calculate roughly how many were lost from misuse or other factors and create a graph that can approximate a rough supply - demand curve.as it is who could guess how much the prices could rise given the scarcity of information.my best guess is that they are going to go up and up until such time as repairing them becomes cost prohibitive or even impossible

bottleneck
05-14-2007, 08:03 AM
L@@ks like shaggy got his reserve. Very low I might add considering he wanted $4500.00 BIN. :blink: UMMMMMMMMMMMM :hmm:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=015&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=250111379286&rd=1&rd=1


Jeff
J/S-S1A :bs:

Of course, bidding history is now hidden on Ebay (bidder1, bidder 2, bidder 3 etc) - which makes it much easier for fake bidding/shill bidding and other disengenuous means of selling/creating false sales.

Definately a shark infested pit these days...

Who knows if the final sale price was genuine?

JBL Dog
05-14-2007, 09:47 AM
Of course, bidding history is now hidden on Ebay (bidder1, bidder 2, bidder 3 etc) - which makes it much easier for fake bidding/shill bidding and other disengenuous means of selling/creating false sales.

Definately a shark infested pit these days...

Who knows if the final sale price was genuine?

The truth of the matter is eBay wants shill bidding. Why not? High final values = more profit. Since you and I don't know the identity of the bidders, we can't notify eBay of violations. It saves them from having to investigate. It's a win-win for eBay and the seller.

mesickmoose
05-14-2007, 04:55 PM
A lot of people want them. There was no schill bidding in our auction as it went with buy it now. I think there are more people that want them then are offerred for sale. Look at christmas time what people pay for the games and toys that are in demand, sometimes double instead of waiting a week. Anyways, if you want the good stuff you end up paying for it. I have a customer in London who soon will have a set of Summits in his home to do with as he pleases. How many sets of JBL summits are in Great Brittain? My guess is that if he has friends they might just want the next pair that shows up on Ebay.

People of taste are willing to pay for it. It is obvious that the L300's are highly desired for sound and design.

Our auction showed A LOT of interrest and I'm sure others were inches from pushing the BIN, especially overseas.

It took a lot of trust to buy something that large from overseas but I'm sure that we will make our customer happy with the L300's we are shipping. And in regards to that, these are not easy to ship and we are just finishing up the process to get them over the pond.

It would be interresting to know where the recent L300's are headed to.

Also, if you get the 2 right people bidding in competition, you could even see a set go higher. The seller probably made an error by listing a buy it now, in fact that may have cost us as well.

kingjames
05-14-2007, 05:16 PM
Not all sellers are as honest as you Mesickmoose,and shill bidding like JBLDog said is rampant on the bay.

Why do these things outsell the 250ti's and by such a great amount? I've heard that the 250ti's were considered the best ever made by JBL and yet they seem to bring the lowest prices for resale?

One day I will have those 300's I just hope I can find them at the Salvation Army.:bouncy:

soundboy
05-14-2007, 07:21 PM
[quote=kingjames;169082]

Why do these things outsell the 250ti's and by such a great amount? I've heard that the 250ti's were considered the best ever made by JBL and yet they seem to bring the lowest prices for resale?


Sound quality, accuracy, soundstaging, detail, etc, seem to have no bearing when it comes to a "classic" JBL system. Efficiency and bass volume, build quality, and looks, I think, have more of a determining value. Not that the L300 is a bad speaker....but the 80's designs are much more transparent and easier to tolerate in a living room.

Having said that, I would much rather have an L300 than a L250 in my party room to play with for movies and rock and roll, not as a "reference" but as a killer speaker for it's time and place, and the nostalgia that goes with it. The 250 doesn't have glass tops, either...

The 250's suffer in value, because they don't have horns, the shape is an aquired taste, and they don't sound "like a JBL".

Just my 2 cents.

sourceoneaudio
05-14-2007, 07:58 PM
[quote=kingjames;169082]

Why do these things outsell the 250ti's and by such a great amount? I've heard that the 250ti's were considered the best ever made by JBL and yet they seem to bring the lowest prices for resale?



Having said that, I would much rather have an L300 than a L250 in my party room to play with for movies and rock and roll, not as a "reference" but as a killer speaker for it's time and place, and the nostalgia that goes with it. The 250 doesn't have glass tops, either...

The 250's suffer in value, because they don't have horns, the shape is an aquired taste, and they don't sound "like a JBL".

Just my 2 cents.


Well a L250 is not a 250TI for starters. So I can see a mint pair of L300's selling for more. Take a mint like new set of 250TI's and they should bring 3k all day long, in the factory boxes even more. I think speaker for speaker in the same condition they are very close in value. Is all depends on what it is. The $4100.00 on the latest sale I think is a fluke, only the future will tell which way they are going to go or finding a stable price point. Plus how many pairs like that out there. ??? :blink:
Yes you are comparing horns to cones, the 250TI is the best Cone Array JBL, or any company ever made! (my opinion) So then it boils down to what kind of sound a person likes better. Cones or Horns?

Jeff
J/S-S1A

johnaec
05-14-2007, 08:10 PM
Plus how many pairs like that out there. ??? Apparently more: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=140118329693&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=004

John

sourceoneaudio
05-14-2007, 08:56 PM
Well, those a very nice. I would not kick them out of the room for eating crackers......! :p


Jeff
J/S-S1A :D

kingjames
05-14-2007, 09:50 PM
I don't know why those speakers intrigue me. It's like my fascination with the Titanic,I don't understand that either. Just looking at those speakers gives me goose bumps. I can almost tell how they sound without ever hearing them.

A forum member offered me his L300's and I had to turn them down because there is no way my old lady will go for it.I had planned on asking her about some L300's right after I gave her ,her Mother's day gift but, didn't want to ruin the moment for her even though she probably would have given me anything at that moment. I guess Love wins again.:banghead:

SEAWOLF97
05-14-2007, 10:07 PM
[quote=kingjames;169082]
The 250's suffer in value, because they don't have horns, the shape is an aquired taste, and they don't sound "like a JBL".
Just my 2 cents.


My mains dont have horns or domes or tweeters at all, do have a funny shape and dont sound like JBLs" but you cudnt pry them out of my hands..

Come on by, Soundboy , tell me what you think..:bouncy:

TOM

(I'd jump at 250ti's at a reasonable price, even tho I'm happy now)

sourceoneaudio
05-14-2007, 10:08 PM
I don't know why those speakers intrigue me. It's like my fascination with the Titanic,I don't understand that either. Just looking at those speakers gives me goose bumps. I can almost tell how they sound without ever hearing them.



I'm with you on that. I would love to plug the Nakamichi PA-7AII into those units and have some serious two channel fun.:bouncy:
They are on the want list!


Jeff
J/S-S1A :D

jim campbell
05-14-2007, 10:14 PM
let us not forget the 2500 or so that some guy got for a lowly set of l 220's recently and the 250's and 300's almost seem reasonable.git em while theys hot cause they aint makin any more.........

VintageJBL300
05-16-2007, 03:37 PM
Before I leave this forum I wanted to share a few passing thoughts with this community. I've read through a number of recent posts and have learned what it means to be a real JBL enthusiast. I am now able to understand why many of you rejected me as being a spoiled rich kid, and unappreciative towards such a rare and sought after item.

I have been the proud owner of these iconic speakers for the last decade, and I have taken care of them as a prized possession. I have enjoyed them thoroughly, but for the last 3 years they have been in storage. And they would have continued to sit in storage until I moved out of an apartment, made a killing in business, and bought a big home where these big boys could thump all night long. The reality is; they hold far greater value to one of you than they ever could for me. It would be like me trying to convince you all that a 12 year old Saab 9000 Aero is way cooler than a more modern machine - it just wouldn't make sense to you.

In all truthfulness, my dad was never an audiophile. In fact when he passed-on the JBL's I also inherited a B&O Beomaster 8000. The Delorian of audio components was cool and all my friends marveled at it mated with the big JBL's, but the cost to keep that time machine running was exorbitant, and so was the space it all took up. So I traded the B&O, with all the old school components (tape decks, record player, headphones ect.) for a brand new Harmon Kardon amp with Vmax. Like a shot of nitro methane igniting a race motor it drove those L300s until I drove my neighbors nuts. Then they went into storage. My dad never missed them, and to be honest I don't know why I wrote that. When the B&O and the Summits became mine, he moved-on in the form of Pioneer components with built in wall speakers and surround sound. He never looked back and was happy to see me enjoy them. Similarly, he was happy to see me realize a great selling price for the speakers. The auction, so you all know was completely fair and without any shill bidding.

In conclusion I appreciate the thoughtful lessons you all have thought me, and perhaps the new owner of these speakers will find you all soon. Unless he's already a member I hope you don't charge him a fee :-}

cheers