L36 Decades for sale - need some room!

[hjames]

I've go to make a bit of room 'round the house, so I promised I'd sell of my L-36 decades. I'm the original owner - bought new in 1976 ran them most of their life with a Yamaha CR-400 receiver (20 some w/ch) and later with a JVC surround receiver of roughtly 100w/ch. When the surrounds crumbled I put them in storage for about 5 year, then replaced the surrounds about 1998 and put them back into service until I bought the 4320s a bit over a year ago. Nowhere to put them for rear surrounds, so off they must go.

They are shiney in the pictures because I just wiped them down with Howards feed and Wax, but the veneer is quite good, except for a wee chip just above the bottom back left corner of one of them (not visible when they are in use - see right speaker in 4th & 4th picture below ).
Both grills are intact with original JBL badges - all original drivers, all original foilcals. One baffleboard has some glue residue visible from adhesive velcro strips used to hold a tandy L100 type baffle on it. It'll probably come off with a solvent, but why bother - its behind the grill.

East-coast based (for a change) the speakers are just outside DC -
They sound great, but I've got too many speakers right now and thats the ONLY reason they are for sale.

I'll put them on eBay and Craig's May 1st if they won't go here ... $200/make offer -

[dandy467]

Would you be willing to ship them @ $200.00 + shipping. Please say yes.

[hjames]

Sorry - the speakers are now SOLD and no longer on the market.

[hjames]

Boxing them up when you don't have the original materials anymore.
Go to the library here and lookup the size of your speakers - L-36s are 24 x 13 1/2 x 13. (2 foot tall is a REAL helpful size!)

Go to HomeDespot and buy 2 sheets of 2' x 8' x 1" thick styrofoam building material ($8 ea - cheap!).
Make a nice cradle around 3 sides and the bottom (note the overlap on the bottom panel).
Cut a piece to drop between the sides over the baffleboard - push gently down to mark the grill pins.
Take it off and cut out holes for the grill pins, thn drop back into place.
Cut a SECOND piece of 1" form to cover the ends of the sides as well as the first baffleboard cover. Thats 2" total over the speaker faces.
Cut a square piece to cover the top of the speaker.

After you do the pair of speakers, there won't be any significant styofoam left over

Box up as required

[subwoof]

The styrofoam is a great idea - I do that on all the heavy items...the 2" stuff works great on the sides of rackmount items to protect the ears.

I find that removing the woofers and compression drivers and packing seperately saves a lot of grief and reduces the impact damage when ( not if ) they get slammed enroute.

So heather, getting ready for the '41s ?? I might have a pair of '21s if needed....:)

"heard it thru the grapevine"

:cheers:

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[hjames]

Yeah - I am still amazed at the packing chops of some folks - I got a 6260 amp the other day, a 47 pound amp in an undersize Direct TV box with a half inch of green popcorn foam on the bottom and two skinny strips of foam front and back. Nothing on top - ludicrous! Why did they even bother? (plus the amp is burned up inside and a questionable ebay sale at best ...)

But selling off my first JBLs - the L36s ... well, I'm just cleaning house and we really need the room.
But I'll admit, if I did find a pair of 40/41/43/45s that I could afford and weren't TOO beat up ...
Anyway, if they didn't have the right drivers I'd want to make them right.

But its all moot -The only JBL Monitors in my possession are the 4320s in L200 clothing ...with the external doghouse to make 'em 4-ways ... (2123s and 2405)

The styrofoam is a great idea - I do that on all the heavy items...the 2" stuff works great on the sides of rackmount items to protect the ears.

I find that removing the woofers and compression drivers and packing seperately saves a lot of grief and reduces the impact damage when ( not if ) they get slammed enroute.

So heather, getting ready for the 434xs ?? I might have a pair of '21s if needed....:)

:cheers:

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[subwoof]

I have rebuilt many of the JBL/urei amps. What is smoked?? send a pix and I can suggest a course of action....maybe...

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[hjames]

Its a 6260 with a burned smell around it. The ribbon cable on the input melted the insulation off half of it, the output terminals (speaker jacks) are partly melted - lots of signs of heat and smoked wires internally ...

Any ideas would be helpful

[subwoof]

The extra wires on the input board are not supposed to be there - that is a common bandaid repair when a massive ground loop has damaged some of the board traces.

And it looked like it had the same thing happen after the repair but this time the MUCH larger gauge wire allowed enough current to flow that it started to melt things. And when the large wire's jacket melted, more damage.

I would tell the seller that as-is means that the NON-DISCLOSURE of a burnt smell is a very dishonest omission.

Your bid history shows a 6260 from CA - that one said one channel had slight distortion. Is this the one?

Without a full bench dissasembly, a difficult project.

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[hjames]

Thats the one - I asked if he heard the distortion in bridged mode and he said he can barely hear any distortion.

Its been a bad deal since I won and paid right away, as I always do. I paid, then emails to the seller started bouncing. I complained to paypal and he mysteriously popped up with a new email address and claimed he'd shipped the day of the sale, tho UPS shows he shipped the night I complained. Took a week to get here from Century City ...

Its smelled like a con since the sale ended - and when it arrived with virtually no packing materials in an undersized box - I smelled a real rat - I've got a claim in with Paypal - we'll see what happens ...

If I can get any money back out of this I'll be glad - basically I think its 50 lbs of trash ...



I would tell the seller that as-is means that the NON-DISCLOSURE of a burnt smell is a very dishonest omission.

Your bid history shows a 6260 from CA - that one said one channel had slight distortion. Is this the one?

Without a full bench dissasembly, a difficult project.

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[subwoof]

When you use it in stereo mode, what is the sound you get from each channel?

If one channel works correctly that mens that all the power supplies, protection, etc circuits are functional and it might be a simple fix for the bad channel esp if does pass *any* signal.

On those amplifiers ( and EVERYTHING ) with the JBL/UREI monikor, solder fractures are a big problem and should be touched up before use. If one of the main power supply caps ( big black ones ) were to arc due to this, it would cause that residue on the circuit board.

Send me a PM about this if you're interested in repair.

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[hjames]

When I saw all the signs of arcing and burning I didn't bother plugging it in. One of the big black caps has split down the seam and is melted looking at the bottom - just didn't seem like a good idea to plug it in with that much damage. I didn't want to risk my speakers with a known risky amp.
I'm pushing for a refund or rebate and just be done with it - then I'll get one that works properly.

But thanks for all the info - I'll look the 6230 over when it arrives for solder issues.

When you use it in stereo mode, what is the sound you get from each channel?

If one channel works correctly that mens that all the power supplies, protection, etc circuits are functional and it might be a simple fix for the bad channel esp if does pass *any* signal.

On those amplifiers ( and EVERYTHING ) with the JBL/UREI monikor, solder fractures are a big problem and should be touched up before use. If one of the main power supply caps ( big black ones ) were to arc due to this, it would cause that residue on the circuit board.

Send me a PM about this if you're interested in repair.

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[subwoof]

The caps swell when overheated ( and an arcing contact WILL do that ) and the plastic on them is actually a type of shrinkwrap. It sounds like the only problem is the one cap and it's connection. but that doesn't explain the ribbon meltdown ( and why all the wires equally??? )

Good luck with the paypal one-sided process and if you decide to get rid of it, let me know. I have 2 other 6260's in the shop awaiting a good reason to mess with them all at once.

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