Is this Schill Bidding?

[kingjames]

I was looking at these but bidder # 5 looks like a schill bidder, Why would a person place so many bids without placing a maximum to begin with.? What do you all think? Thanks! Jim


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=015&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=250102702803&rd=1&rd=1

[JBL Dog]

I was looking at these but bidder # 5 looks like a schill bidder, Why would a person place so many bids without placing a maximum to begin with.? What do you all think? Thanks! Jim


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=015&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=250102702803&rd=1&rd=1


It doesn't look like shill bidding. Some guys just bid that way. I'm not sure what L5's are worth, so I could be wrong.

[grumpy]

auto-bid programs can do that too... -grumpy

[opimax]

he is just bidding the minimum increment til he is high bidder. I am doing that elsewhere. He puts up a big bid, I up it the smallest amount possible. I fell i am iritating him, maybe he will make a mistake, show his true hand??? we are over a grand off best guess minimum and days away. everybody has some bidding stategy...

Mark

[brutal]

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[briang]

he is just bidding the minimum increment til he is high bidder. I am doing that elsewhere. He puts up a big bid, I up it the smallest amount possible. I fell i am iritating him, maybe he will make a mistake, show his true hand??? we are over a grand off best guess minimum and days away. everybody has some bidding stategy...

Mark

I bid a lot like Mark...which stinks when we get into bidding wars (and we have ;) )...

[opimax]

I'm winning again, $10 increments :applaud: :applaud:

Mark

[SMKSoundPro]

I'm winning again, $10 increments :applaud: :applaud:

Mark

DON'T BID THAT WAY!!! YOU'RE ONLY DRIVING THE PRICE UP FASTER!!!

lay and wait like your hunting prey. Bid high at the last possible second!

Whoever bids MOST at the LAST second wins the auction. All of the bidding days before it closes is POINTLESS!!!

It seems moronic to continually bid on something that you cannot win, because you are actully bidding against a clock! There is no live auctioneer to determine that interest has waned and no more live bids are coming and drop the hammer.

Please rethink your bidding strategy. That is all I am saying!

Scott.

[hjames]

Maybe they are shill bidders, working for the seller!:applaud:
I sure can't imagine bidding the price up days in advance as having any advantage to the BUYER!


he he he


DON'T BID THAT WAY!!! YOU'RE ONLY DRIVING THE PRICE UP FASTER!!!


Please rethink your bidding strategy!

Scott.

Ended:Apr-17-07 21:45:12 PDT

[SMKSoundPro]

Dear Miss Heather,

Lisa and I agree a very pretty avatar!

Signed,
Scotty & Lisa.

[JBL Dog]

DON'T BID THAT WAY!!! YOU'RE ONLY DRIVING THE PRICE UP FASTER!!!

lay and wait like your hunting prey. Bid high at the last possible second!

Whoever bids MOST at the LAST second wins the auction. All of the bidding days before it closes is POINTLESS!!!

It seems moronic to continually bid on something that you cannot win, because you are actully bidding against a clock! There is no live auctioneer to determine that interest has waned and no more live bids are coming and drop the hammer.

Please rethink your bidding strategy. That is all I am saying!

Scott.

Scott:

Unless you're bidding the price up to a ridiculous level, I don't see anything wrong with "baby-step" bidding. It may actually discourage others from putting it on their watch list and sniping it in the last minute. In other words, if you're willing to spend $450 on an item that normally sells for that (ex: JBL 077's), why not walk it up to $375? You'll get all the snipers to take it off their watch list.

Whatever you've been successful with, stick with it!

:D

[grumpy]

... as soon as enough folks learn the game, the game changes. -grumpy

[opimax]

Couple of quick comments. I too follow the rule of if you want it "shhh don't say a word" so on this one I am not going to miss it if i don't win

Second. I am at a bid i will be happpy to win at but less than a 1/3 the way to expected price, too low to make a difference. So far just 2 bidders and I know more will enter. the real bidding is in the LAST 10 SECONDS!!!

Mark

[SMKSoundPro]

I have been called on many times to be an auctioneer for different parties and private school dinners and fund raisers.

I try to use the same principles when bidding on online auctions.

FACT: Whomever has the highest bid at the closing second of time, wins.

What real purpose drives a bidder to using incremental bidding, when the above fact is the truth?

A snipe is exactly that. See above fact.

I perceive that if it is something I am dying to have, then I am willing to wait in the bushes and strike at the last possible second. I have won more auctions for less money this way, than making incremental bids to basically announce to the world how hot I am for that "it" item.

I have also known of others placing a bid on an item, after seeing someone continually bidding, just to make that bidder end up paying more for the item out of some form of perceived spite.

For evidence of this, please go to vintage highheel auctions, or just ask my wife. She'll tell you how it really works! (women will kill each other for the right shoe, in the right size, for the right price!) And I end up paying the real price.

Scott.

[hjames]

Thank you kindly - thats my partner, Emma.
Seems she noticed Giskard's "Lets make a JBL Deal" avatar and figured I should have one too (!)
or maybe it was from watching "The Devil Wears Prada" earlier this week ...

But I'm sure she'll appreciate the complement.


Dear Miss Heather,

Lisa and I agree a very pretty avatar!

Signed,
Scotty & Lisa.

[briang]

(women will kill each other for the right shoe, in the right size, for the right price!) And I end up paying the real price.

Scott.

Scott, et. al.

Whenever we married men buy something, we pay for it three times as follows:
1) The price you paid.
2) The price you tell her your paid.
3) The price you pay when she finds out what you paid.

:barf:

[JBL Dog]

I have been called on many times to be an auctioneer for different parties and private school dinners and fund raisers.

I try to use the same principles when bidding on online auctions.

FACT: Whomever has the highest bid at the closing second of time, wins.

What real purpose drives a bidder to using incremental bidding, when the above fact is the truth?

A snipe is exactly that. See above fact.

I perceive that if it is something I am dying to have, then I am willing to wait in the bushes and strike at the last possible second. I have won more auctions for less money this way, than making incremental bids to basically announce to the world how hot I am for that "it" item.

I have also known of others placing a bid on an item, after seeing someone continually bidding, just to make that bidder end up paying more for the item out of some form of perceived spite.

For evidence of this, please go to vintage highheel auctions, or just ask my wife. She'll tell you how it really works! (women will kill each other for the right shoe, in the right size, for the right price!) And I end up paying the real price.

Scott.


Why are you so concerned with the bidding style of another?

[SMKSoundPro]

Why are you so concerned with the bidding style of another?
Simply because it appears to be shill bidding, instead of a methodical approach to a timed auction.

Someone asked it this looks like shill bidding, and my answer is yes.

Scott.