4350 B-WX

[jim3860]

A pair of 4350s with 15 mins left if you have to have a pair here is your chance. NO AFFILATION ETC. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=017&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=270093731024&rd=1&rd=1 REGARDS JIM

[saeman]

Gone at $8500. The only bidder also placed two insurance bids on top of his initial bid. I guess he was trying to let everyone know that they were his. I'm surprised someone didn't throw in a last minute bid to cause him some pain. I can't say that the price surprises me. I know of two pairs of 4345's that have changed hands recently for over $7K a pair - and don't forget those rattly black 4350's in K.C. that just sold for $6100 with lots of $$$ needed to bring them back to par.

Maybe a sign of an increasing demand ??? @@@ *** and they're not all going to the orient either.

[John]

Gone at $8500.

Maybe a sign of an increasing demand ??? @@@ *** and they're not all going to the orient either.


Well you never know this buyer could be drop shipping them right to Japan???:blah:

By the way there was a Buy It now on that listing for $12,000 before the buyer bid on them. My gut tells me he had a $9500-10,000 3rd. bid on those;)

Can you get them cheaper? Sure:bouncy:


But there is no doubt, overall they will be increasing in value as time marches on.:D

[JBL Dog]

I always complain the good stuff isn't anywhere near me. Not this time. No doubt the best set of large format monitors I've ever seen in this area. However, $8500+ is/was a little too rich for me. I would have to sell one of my Metregons, the 4343's and come up with some cash to make it happen.

Maybe next time.....

[mikebake]

I always complain the good stuff isn't anywhere near me. Not this time. No doubt the best set of large format monitors I've ever seen in this area. However, $8500+ is/was a little too rich for me. I would have to sell one of my Metregons, the 4343's and come up with some cash to make it happen.

Maybe next time.....
Our just build something more current. And take a cruise. For the same $.

[jim campbell]

i think that we all have received a wake up call.the winning bidder's name implies that he is a doctor and therefore probably $8500. wont send him off to the poorhouse.jbl is not making this stuff any more and as time goes by the prices will continue to climb.i have been trying to find the dream jbs for quite some time now and at every turn been out bid or reluctant to pull the trigger because distance,has made the condition and nature of the seller a question mark.sure deals will pop up from tiime to time and im sure that some owners will want their babies to go to someone they know instead of the highest bidder.but most of the time when a good quality set will pop up for sale there will be those who will reject them because of price and live to regret it when the price rises again

[Ken Pachkowsky]

Gone at $8500.

8500 for 4350's.......wow!
7000 for 4345's....... I could understand this to a small degree as they are more rare and definately sound more refined.

For 8500 you could pick up some great BBSM15's and get twice the performance with "similar JBL components."

Now if its an investment your after....the 4350's will no doubt fetch more in the future, but sound quality/performance...forget it.

Before spending that kind of coin do what another member just did and find out for yourselves.

I quote from a recent private message.....keeping the members identity private.

"My recent trip to XXXXX opened my ears to Westlakes, the HR -7 and BBSM15 blew my mind. They were just so smooth and uncoloured - I am almost tempted to get the HR-7 and forget DIY!"

Be well

Ken

[jim campbell]

8500 for 4350's.......wow!
ken, i'll betchya a buck (us) that in five years guys are going to sigh and remember the good ole days when a good set of 4350's could be had for under 10 k

[Ken Pachkowsky]

ken, i'll betchya a buck (us) that in five years guys are going to sigh and remember the good ole days when a good set of 4350's could be had for under 10 k

No doubt you are correct. They are and will continue to be a valued collectible.

Ken

[Titanium Dome]

Our just build something more current. And take a cruise. For the same $.

That hits the nail right on the head for those who desire such a beast. :bash: Even Ken's approach makes much more sense: modern speakers, much improved design, and better driver complement.

Since I don't want such beasties, I go in another direction to buy something current that makes multichannel sound truly rational.*

Still, you gotta love those big, beautiful cabinets and that big sound.


* Seven Ti tweeters, seven Ti midranges, eight Ti midbass drivers, two 14" AquaPlased woofers, and three 12" Al subwoofers--now that's BIG sound!

[John]

8500 for 4350's.......wow!

For 8500 you could pick up some great BBSM15's and get twice the performance with "similar JBL components."


Ken

Twice the performance??? :blink:
You Think???

100% better sounds like it would be hard to achieve with the same components.:hmm:

Lets not confuse a simple bi-amped system with a quad amped system. I can see the westlake 2397 horn and superior xover pushing their system past the 4350 in performance. But I would have to think the 4350 could still get the job done.;)

[Ken Pachkowsky]

Twice the performance??? :blink:
You Think???

100% better sounds like it would be hard to achieve with the same components.:hmm:

But I would have to think the 4350 could still get the job done.;)

If thats all you want, yes it gets the job done. Then again, so does a pair of L100's. The point is, how well you want the job done?

I would compare the difference this way.

L300's to 4345's. Night and Day.

I have discovered the cabs are just as important as any speaker component (perhaps more so), based on the end results. I would never choose to go back to "any" of my 43 series systems.

I will add, I have never heard 4355's or The Performance Series for that matter.

Ken

[invstbiker]

And I sold my 4350's right here for 4K, what a bargain for the buyer

[John]

I would compare the difference this way.

L300's to 4345's. Night and Day.



Ken

L300= 3 Way
4345=4 Way

Apples and Oranges ???;)

[John]

And I sold my 4350's right here for 4K, what a bargain for the buyer

I bet the guys that were trying to low ball you are feeling stupid now for not burning rubber to your front door:p

[Ken Pachkowsky]

L300= 3 Way
4345=4 Way

Apples and Oranges ???;)

Fair enough John, was just trying to make a point. The difference is dramatic.:D

Ken

[Ken Pachkowsky]

And I sold my 4350's right here for 4K, what a bargain for the buyer

Wow, you gave those away. I would have thought 5500 minimum for a pair in excellent condition.

Nice to see you by the way. I sold you something but can't remember what? Love the T Shirt!

Ken

[John]

Hi Ken. When you had the 4345,s and would take them to concert levels, did you ever feel that the cabinets themselves were maybe not up to the quality of the components inside of them.???

[Ken Pachkowsky]

Hi Ken. When you had the 4345,s and would take them to concert levels, did you ever feel that the cabinets themselves were maybe not up to the quality of the components inside of them.???

That's a fair question.

This is all subjective, but to me the Westlake cabs make a huge difference in the overall quality of the reproduction. My brother has a pair of BBSM15's that were all re-coned and included new phragms in the horns.

There performance continues to blow me away compared to my old 4345's. To boot they are only a three way system. However, the crossover takes up the whole rear baffle and is obviously far superior to a standard JBL crossover.

Probably get blasted for making that statement.:yes: IE: based on what data? Just go back and look at the factory tour photos last January. The close-ups were of a new BBSM15 Crossover. Westlake spares no expense building them and the man hours are outrageous.

I believe its the combination of all these factors that make the difference.

As far as the HR1's. They are simply in a different league, especially when combined with a dual Deqx system and Boulder amps. I feel very fortunate to have been able to aquire them at such a reasonable price. I wish TDome, Steve Schell and Edgewound could have heard them with all Boulder amps and Deqx crossovers properly tweaked. Unfortunately I was still running the old electronics then.

The jury was out for a long time before I finally got them setup right. I was very frustrated with hum and buzz problems etc etc. Several members helped me work out the bugs. For that I am grateful. After using a parametric eq I would never go back to a graphic. Widget hounded me for a year to try the Deqx........wish I had listened sooner.

There is a standing invitation for any member to come by and have a listen. Maybe I have my head up my butt....but I don't think so.;)

Ken

[John]

Hi Ken I remember the xover quite well.:bouncy: And that I believe is the number one reason the Westlakes take audio reproduction to the level they do.:applaud:
After that I would have to think it is the horns and finally the cabinets being as solid as they are and coated with the secret recipe gunk!!! ;)

But I firmly believe if you took a 4350, and upgraded to a xover of the same quality as the westlake is enjoying and perhaps if need be add some of the secret gunk you might start closing the gap between the two beasts.

But of course when it comes down to that 2311, I give up!!!:banghead: I do not think there is anything that can be done to get it on the same level as the Westlake wooden horn's. :thmbsup:

[Ken Pachkowsky]

But I firmly believe if you took a 4350, and upgraded to a xover of the same quality as the westlake is enjoying and perhaps if need be add some of the secret gunk you might start closing the gap between the two beasts.



Now that could and would be interesting...

Nice to see you John.

Ken

[Ian Mackenzie]

Nice example of vintage JBL..

I think its absurd and frankly insane to even entertain a comparison of the Westlake's and the 43XX JBL's. Then again you would have to be certified to use an HR1 in a home situation.:D

Surely it would be more sensible to see the JBL E2 in a comparison or the TAD M1 with the Westlake. :)

[Zilch]

Then again you would have to be certified to use an HR1 in a home situation.Hmmm....

Certifiable wouldn't be good enough? ;)

[Ken Pachkowsky]

Hmmm....

Certifiable wouldn't be good enough? ;)

Certificates are available if you can meet the requirments.:beach:

Have a good one.

Ken

[Ken Pachkowsky]

Nice example of vintage JBL..

Surely it would be more sensible to see the JBL E2 in a comparison or the TAD M1 with the Westlake. :)

I would agree Ian. From what I hear the Tad M1 is damned impressive. I have had 3 friends who heard them in Vegas say they are the best system they ever heard.

Ken

[edgewound]

I would agree Ian. From what I hear the Tad M1 is damned impressive. I have had 3 friends who heard them in Vegas say they are the best system they ever heard.

Ken

Hey Ken...

That's been replaced with the Reference 1, and is priced identically to the Everest II.

TAD had all Ref 1's in a 5 channel surround setup....ohhhh mmmyyyy:yes: :jawdrop:

[Ken Pachkowsky]

Hey Ken...

That's been replaced with the Reference 1, and is priced identically to the Everest II.



Of course you are correct. Yep, I would love to hear them.

Great to see you..

Ken