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Storm
02-08-2007, 08:54 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=018&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&viewitem=&item=280077301091&rd=1&rd=1


Going to pick it up soon - only 70 miles from Phoenix. Will make a day trip out of it.

Would love to see his valencias.

Can't wait to pick this receiver up!

Thanks Jack!

-Storm

:p

JBLRaiser
02-08-2007, 09:32 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=018&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&viewitem=&item=280077301091&rd=1&rd=1


Going to pick it up soon - only 70 miles from Phoenix. Will make a day trip out of it.

Would love to see his valencias.

Can't wait to pick this receiver up!

Thanks Jack!

-Storm

:p


That's out right grand larceny there.:applaud:

Zilch
02-09-2007, 12:42 AM
That is certainly beautiful, Storm!

Jack told us once what that gorgeous wood is, but I forget, now.

Take along your favorite "test" CDs, and ask Jack to play his "Usta-be L200s" for you, too. :thmbsup:

I'd be very interested to hear how you like their sound.... :yes:

SUPERBEE
02-09-2007, 02:01 AM
BLA BLA BLA......

jackgiff
02-09-2007, 11:07 AM
Take along your favorite "test" CDs, and ask Jack to play his "Usta-be L200s" for you, too. :thmbsup:Zilch, hearing the "Usta-be L200's" might change his mind about those 846U Valencias. Are you sure we want that?

Storm
02-09-2007, 11:23 AM
Jack,

I would love to hear those speakers.

I doubt it will change my mind, but I am open to broadening my horizon in the speaker world.

I wish there was a vintage audio store like the hi-end audio stores where one could listen to the great speakers in suitable environments and get a taste without purchasing.

Has anyone else had that idea?

:)

-Storm.

sourceoneaudio
02-09-2007, 11:43 AM
Looks like a great receiver for the garage, or patio.


J/S-S1A :D

SEAWOLF97
02-09-2007, 11:46 AM
Zilch, hearing the "Usta-be L200's" might change his mind about those 846U Valencias. Are you sure we want that?

Jack

play the 4412's for him too,,,,,,, Altecs ? what altecs ? :applaud:

sourceoneaudio
02-09-2007, 11:50 AM
Jack

play the 4412's for him too,,,,,,, Altecs ? what altecs ? :applaud:


My thoughts exactly. I think he needs (Storm) to be exposed to what speakers are really supposed to sound like. The mind set is to narrow at the moment............


J/S-S1A :D

Storm
02-09-2007, 11:51 AM
Source -

You think Altecs are sub par?

-Storm.

sourceoneaudio
02-09-2007, 12:03 PM
If I had a set, or was willed a set I would sell them first chance I got. I really think you need to listen to some of the greater JBL speakers any of the studio monitor's, 250TI's, or the Everest DD55000, K2-S9500, S3100MKII's, I tend to think you will drift. I think the 250TI's would probably make you drift away from Altec's. They have a much more detailed, realistic, natural sound.
I know if you ever got a taste of any of the above you would be selling your's to reach another goal>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

J/S-S1A :D

louped garouv
02-09-2007, 12:10 PM
I had some of the JBL line and it didn;t sway me....

sometimes there is just no accounting for personal taste...

LoL

really though, I think it depends on what you are seeking....

not everyone is seeking "your father's HiFi" type of system...

:)

Storm
02-09-2007, 12:12 PM
I passed on your 250TIs because someone mentioned to me that the bass was not as good as the ones I have.

Can the 250TIs shake the house?

I like my Altecs and so do alot of other people.

I am glad we live in a country where we all can have our own opinions.

-Storm.

hjames
02-09-2007, 12:37 PM
I passed on your 250TIs because someone mentioned to me that the bass was not as good as the ones I have.

Can the 250TIs shake the house?

I like my Altecs and so do alot of other people.

I am glad we live in a country where we all can have our own opinions.

-Storm.

I didn't say the 250 bass wasn't as good - what I said was the 250 wasn't as "In your face" which is something you said you preferred of your speaker over your father's speakers. I gave you a comparison based on what you said was significant for you. It wasn't a global comment.

sourceoneaudio
02-09-2007, 12:45 PM
Storm,
I'm not trying to sell you my 250TI's, and yes to your question. With the right amount of power put forth they will do all that is expected of them and more. With the gear you have listed in your signature I can't see any house shaking being done anyway, especially with Altec's. Are you running any real power??? (AMPS)

I also think Heather's comment on in your face sound she is referring to the Altec Metal horns.

I beleive from a technical stand point the bass would be better in my opinion. The construction quality, and components used throughout are in a totally different world when it comes to the big picture. If you take the two apart and examine them it is evident........


Jeff
J/S-S1A :D

SEAWOLF97
02-09-2007, 01:00 PM
If you go back and look at the threads with Alexkerhead ( also early 20's) , he was in love/lust with his L100s. Nothing could be better.

Then Zilch turned him on to 44xx series, and he purchased a pair. Never heard another word about the Centuries. He started to "hear" the music , not just "shake the house". Was nice to see a young guy who could learn from people with more experience, and actually use the advise given to him. :applaud:

sourceoneaudio
02-09-2007, 01:27 PM
That is all I'm offering is advise. I see that the love is deep for the Altec's for him. But there is more to listen too. I speak with 24 years in the business and I have owned lots of cool audio toys and ventured in many different directions. Currenty using Klipsch Reference in the home theater room, don't know if I'll ever change that room, but that is why there is the two channel room. That is the room to play/test out new toys.

J/S-S1A :D

jim3860
02-09-2007, 02:20 PM
i told him to get this setup also, it will make him say altecs what altecs? :D with 450 wpc at 8 ohms pushing these huge snells http://phoenix.craigslist.org/ele/274512782.html

JBLRaiser
02-09-2007, 02:29 PM
i told him to get this setup also, it will make him say altecs what altecs? :D http://phoenix.craigslist.org/ele/274512782.html

Must you get Storm going again?:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :dont-know

P.S. Nice amp!

sourceoneaudio
02-09-2007, 02:54 PM
Must you get Storm going again?:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :dont-know

P.S. Nice amp!


I'm laughing so hard I'm on the floor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


J/S-S1A :blink: :blink: :blink: :blink: :blink:

kingjames
02-09-2007, 03:09 PM
I passed on your 250TIs because someone mentioned to me that the bass was not as good as the ones I have.

Can the 250TIs shake the house?

I like my Altecs and so do alot of other people.

I am glad we live in a country where we all can have our own opinions.

-Storm.

I can rock the house with them and other people's house's as well down the block they take everything I give them and ,though I am 55 years old I still play some songs at very high volume and still have the police coming to my house as well.:D

SEAWOLF97
02-09-2007, 03:57 PM
Can the 250TIs shake the house?
I like my Altecs and so do alot of other people.-Storm.

Not attacking you Strum, but I have never heard you mention the Altec imaging , smoothness , clarity , voicing, ... etc..... only the BASS..."they shake the house" and many other similar lines.

Maybe you wud be better served replacing them with four 18 inch subs ??

OBTW - darned near any decent 12 in LF will "shake the house" :applaud:

Storm
02-09-2007, 04:01 PM
I didn't realize a group of adults could be this immature.

Do you guys really need to beat me up?

The Altecs do it for me...end of story.

-Storm.

SEAWOLF97
02-09-2007, 05:25 PM
I didn't realize a group of adults could be this immature.

Wow, so mature to start a thread such as this one.

Now I understand the real mentality of you guys on this forum!

Nothing wrong with having opinions. It takes a mature man to walk by and leave others alone. I presume you were the bully on the playground? And yes, I was the one that was bullied - and apparenty, still am.

be a tad bit more mature about things - I know I will from now on.

You guys remind me of bullies in grade school on the playground.
Shows your mentality and maturity.
I would rather be in puberty than be an old geezer.

Why did you have to act like a 4 year old and start a stupid thread such as this one?
Wank on? Wow, really shows your maturity level.

Glad you are not my father - you annoy the shit out of me!

Wow, you are a bitter individual. Go ask your mom for an apology.

You are pathetic to think it is quite alright to badger people.

You must be a lonely guy...

I think he should be banned. His posts are ridiculous and pointless.

I would have thought that any adult could understand that everyone is entitled to their own opinions.


-Storm.

WOW Strom...you shud have been a diplomat.

jim3860
02-09-2007, 05:57 PM
I didn't realize a group of adults could be this immature.

Do you guys really need to beat me up?

The Altecs do it for me...end of story.

-Storm.
i dont think anyone wants to beat you up regarding your altecs. its only that we believe that they are not the best sounding speaker in the world. i dont have the best sounding speakers in the world either. i would gladly trade what jbls i have now for the snells that i showed you. are they the best in the world? no but certainly better than what i own now. there are a lot of speakers out there that probally sound better than the altecs do. as im sure there are lots of speakers that sound way better than anything i own also. if you are currently happy with your altecs good for you. i am pretty happy with what i have now also, but am aware there better things out there is all. i also think if you heard those large snells with that amp you would gladly give up the altecs for those. they in my humble oppnion are simply in a diffrent class is all. not that yours are bad. REGARDS JIM

SEAWOLF97
02-09-2007, 06:14 PM
its only that we believe that they are not the best sounding speaker in the world. REGARDS JIM

try that phrase on google....not much agreement, so if Strom thinks Altecs are, then that is fine/his opinion, but WHY pound it in to us constantly ? its like he's touting them before a sale ?



Mine are NOT THE BEST, but they are not for sale either.

--------------------------------------------------------

The Two Best Speakers In The World Face Off! Which One Is The Winner?
Dec 14 '01

This review will focus on the two most widely known speakers in the world. By most, they are considered the greatest ever built, but they aren't the most expensive. They both cost around $10,000 a pair, so because of the price similarity, I will compare the Magnepan MG20.1 and B&W Nautilus 801 series speakers.

Hmm, after much searching around and lookin in on different forums, i thought i would make a thread voicing your opinions on what you guys think are the best speakers in the world.

Me personally think the Wilson Audio's are. A friend of mine has the X2's and oh ma gawd!

Audio Machina, Star Sound Technologies, Green Mountain Audio, Gallo Accoustics

THE BEST SPEAKERS IN THE WORLD?
In my sixteen years at Positive Feedback, the Von Schweikert Research VR-9 SE loudspeakers are absolutely the finest transducers that I've ever heard in my listening room. The VR-9's are magic!



Beauhorn - The Best Speakers in the World


Surely the Worlds Best Loudspeakers.....

Reproduce the widest audible range of sound with the lowest interference.
The most recognisable and enjoyable sound is singing, which always projects from a single point - a mouth. make you hear music in your own lounge from the world's top artists, as if they are in your room - live.
Project full-range-accurate sound from a single drive-unit (http://www.worldsbestloudspeakers.com/Facts/Unit/unit.html#SingleDriveUnit) without significant echoes or sound from any other places. Resolution broke the rule book, and upset the entire hi-fi industry, by exhibiting demonstrating and supplying to the world the one reference loudspeaker that undermines them all.

jim3860
02-09-2007, 06:51 PM
try that phrase on google....not much agreement, so if Strom thinks Altecs are, then that is fine/his opinion, but WHY pound it in to us constantly ? its like he's touting them before a sale ?



Mine are NOT THE BEST, but they are not for sale either.

--------------------------------------------------------

The Two Best Speakers In The World Face Off! Which One Is The Winner?
Dec 14 '01

This review will focus on the two most widely known speakers in the world. By most, they are considered the greatest ever built, but they aren't the most expensive. They both cost around $10,000 a pair, so because of the price similarity, I will compare the Magnepan MG20.1 and B&W Nautilus 801 series speakers.

Hmm, after much searching around and lookin in on different forums, i thought i would make a thread voicing your opinions on what you guys think are the best speakers in the world.

Me personally think the Wilson Audio's are. A friend of mine has the X2's and oh ma gawd!

Audio Machina, Star Sound Technologies, Green Mountain Audio, Gallo Accoustics

THE BEST SPEAKERS IN THE WORLD?
In my sixteen years at Positive Feedback, the Von Schweikert Research VR-9 SE loudspeakers are absolutely the finest transducers that I've ever heard in my listening room. The VR-9's are magic!



Beauhorn - The Best Speakers in the World


Surely the Worlds Best Loudspeakers.....

Reproduce the widest audible range of sound with the lowest interference.
The most recognisable and enjoyable sound is singing, which always projects from a single point - a mouth. make you hear music in your own lounge from the world's top artists, as if they are in your room - live.
Project full-range-accurate sound from a single drive-unit (http://www.worldsbestloudspeakers.com/Facts/Unit/unit.html#SingleDriveUnit) without significant echoes or sound from any other places. Resolution broke the rule book, and upset the entire hi-fi industry, by exhibiting demonstrating and supplying to the world the one reference loudspeaker that undermines them all. im not exactly sure what you are disagreeing on. :blink: but thats ok too lol. i know a guy that swore his bose 901s were the best speakers out there period. i promptly took him home let him listen to my jbls and he had a diffrent oppinion when he left. and i think storm will change his mind once he is exposed to some better quality speakers. and if he wants to continue to say his is the best then i suppose people will tell him diffrently:p REGARDS JIM

Storm
02-09-2007, 06:55 PM
It it unfortunate that people - especially seawolf - can't leave people alone regarding their opinions.

Hey seawolf - have I hijacked one of your threads, particularly the OHM F thread? I dont think so! So, why do you think you have the right to do it to mine?

Get off my back!

You are pathetic to think it is quite alright to badger people.

You must be a lonely guy...

-Storm.

:blah:

Zilch
02-09-2007, 06:59 PM
Do you guys really need to beat me up?Nobody's beatin' up on you, Storm.

I, for one, am hoping you will have an enjoyable adventure visiting Jack and listening to his gear.

[Seawolf is too, I betcha.... :thmbsup: ]

Storm
02-09-2007, 07:03 PM
Well zilch,

Yes, I definately will have a pleasant time on Sunday with Jackgiff and his equipment.

My mind is always open, but when people bash my opinions - that goes too far. Because I certainly don't bash anyone else's opinions.

The thread was not a rant about my speakers, but seawolf has to interject it everytime he can.

I think he should be banned. His posts are ridiculous and pointless.

I was simply showing people what I purchased from a fellow member from eBay.

As you guys can notice, I certainly don't interject my opinion about my speakers in your threads. I do it on threads that pertain to Altec.

Please, just let me have my opinion --- I don't know why this forum is so immature, but compared to AK, it is.

I would have thought that any adult could understand that everyone is entitled to their own opinions.

Seawolf isn't even contributing, he is just nagging.

Argh.

This is very frustrating.

It seems as though no one on this forum can have opinions unless they are facts. Why is that?

:biting:

-Storm

jim3860
02-09-2007, 07:38 PM
actually its kind of funny that i am even talking about jbls or altecs either one right now because what im currently listening to is polk sda srs 1.2tls are they better than the jbls i own. im not sure to be honest. there are things i like about them over the JBL L80t3s that i have but. i prefer the midrange better on the L80t3s. the sdas can certainly handle more power and will also get the floor shaking with the bass btw if i crank on it a lil. with the carver tfm35x amp that im using. its 250wpc. i swear that i can hear the sda srs 1.2tls laughing at it during quiet passages :rotfl: i know also that there are jbls that will totally put these to shame, but for most of my 2 channel listening they sound pretty good. so im happy till i find something better. large jbls up here are rarer than 3 legged buffaloes so i have to settle for what i can find and afford. btw storm if thats your altecs in your avatar they do look nice. ok guys go ahead beat me up if you want for mentioning the polks :p REGARDS JIM

loach71
02-09-2007, 07:42 PM
Nobody's beatin' up on you, Storm.

I, for one, am hoping you will have an enjoyable adventure visiting Jack and listening to his gear.

[Seawolf is too, I betcha.... :thmbsup: ]


Hey I visit Jack every night -- oops -- Jack Daniel's that is :cheers:
Bottled in bond sour mash -- makes building the 4688 clones go much more smoothly. Always use a push stick on tha table saw... Hic hiC hic:cheers:

Storm
02-09-2007, 07:48 PM
btw storm if thats your altecs in your avatar they do look nice. :p REGARDS JIM

Yes, Jim - those are my Altecs. Well, the Model 19s are my dads - currently at his condo and the ones in the back are mine.

Thanks for noticing my avatar.

:p

-Storm.

Zilch
02-09-2007, 07:50 PM
It seems as though no one on this forum can have opinions unless they are facts. Why is that?Because, unless there is some basis in fact, a mere opinion has little weight. Just because you have an opinion does not in and of itself confer standing, no matter how many times you repeat it.

Like you say, everyone's got an opinion. Asserting such opinion ad infinitum does not vest it with merit. Instead, it becomes diminished to the point of being meaningless, and, well, irritating.

That's where your opinion of Valencias is right now. Nobody gives a whit, and if my own response is any indication, they're more than tired of reading it; not every Altec thread calls for yet another gratuitous expression of your opinion about your own speakers.

You have plenty to contribute here. I look forward to your review of visiting with Jack with as much anticipation as I did your "Great M19 Adventure" and the Aussie Floyd concert....

SEAWOLF97
02-09-2007, 07:52 PM
ok guys go ahead beat me up if you want for mentioning the polks :p REGARDS JIM

Jim
Of course , NOT . Audio is a best-fit hobby. I have some POLKS, and they are better than some JBLs I've got. You only really get problems here if your presentation is offensive.

The only real rule in audio is : ENJOY !!

Storm
02-09-2007, 07:53 PM
Because, unless there is some basis in fact, a mere opinion has little weight.

Like you say, everyone's got an opinion. Asserting such opinion ad infinitum does not confer merit upon it. Instead, it is diminished to the point of being meaningless, and, well, irritating.

That's where your opinion of Valencias is right now. Nobody gives a whit, and they're tired of reading it; not every Altec thread calls for yet another expression of your opinion about your speakers....

But again, I ask - why does it seem that I am the one that is getting called out?

There are plenty that voice their opinion on threads.

Am I an easy target? Guess so!

These back and forth threads would never have enough umph' if the other adults on this thread clicked another link on this site instead of "post reply".

I know I respect other peoples' threads. Why can't I seem to get the same respect?

Can't we all just agree to disagree? Is that plausible?

-Storm.

Zilch
02-09-2007, 08:16 PM
But again, I ask - why does it seem that I am the one that is getting called out?

There are plenty that voice their opinion on threads.If there is a discussion of Valencias, then it's appropriate to express an opinion about them, but, even then, it would be more worthwhile if your opinion had somewhat more depth to it than, "They're the best in the world and I will never sell mine."

There's just not a whole lot of meaningful content there, Storm, certainly not enough to warrant the inordinate amount of play you have given it here.

There's only one other member I perceive with a similarly obsessive fixation about their specific gear, and they are pikers by comparison when it comes to posting about it here. That's why you're a target.

I know I respect other peoples' threads. Why can't I seem to get the same respect?If I'm any indicator, and, as you may well suspect, I read just about every post in these forums, I'd venture to guess you got more respect here for your M19 adventure than all of the rest of your "opinion" posts combined, the entire content of which could probably be summed up in two sentences, perhaps less. Again, Storm, I don't intend that as an insult. I'm merely answering your inquiry as truthfully as I know how....

SEAWOLF97
02-09-2007, 09:07 PM
Hey seawolf - have I hijacked one of your threads, particularly the OHM F thread? I dont think so! So, why do you think you have the right to do it to mine?
Get off my back!
-Storm.
:blah:

Welll, not entirely true , again , Strom , a bit of a revisionist view on your part

here are SOME of your comments from the OHM thread that you mention:

.................................................. ...................................

BTW: In my opnion, the unfinished birch is WAY more attractive than any Walnut veneer. Just because it sold for cheaper, does not mean it is cheaper. I would easily say it is worth 10% more than regular 846B walnut.
-Storm.

This is why I love my Altecs. I can crank them up and rock the house without worrying at all.
I think later down the road, the birch will be desirable. It does not matter that it was the cheaper, it will be supply and demand. Not alot out there to choose from, mostly walnut versions.

-Storm.

Well, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Why would I ruin the originality of them anyways by adding rosewood veneer?
To me, Birch is more of a modern wood - check out the trendy furniture stores - teak and birch are all the rage.
-Storm.

I didn't know there was comedians on this forum.
Can we stop the bashing or is that what the Navy taught you, Seawolf? What a good use of America's tax dollars, I'd say!
Come on and stop the childish behavior and FINALLY become a man!

-Storm.

Seriously, though...I think my generation is done with dark colors and especially the walnut - yuck!
Just like a@#holes, everyones got an opinion - and I am very glad everyone gets a chance to voice them.
-Storm.

Yes, these were my first speakers and they will be my last. Not due to budget restraints, but I truly have found the speaker for me.

If you can't realize the simple fact that light colors and birch are in style, then you must be older than I thought.

Have an open mind - embrace things that you cannot understand.
And no, I am not blabbering. I am trying to give VOICE to these speakers and give them the justice and respect they deserve - trying to show people that JBLs are not the only answer.
What about justice and respect for animals? I think all things in this life need a little justice and respect.

I am glad to say I dont change with the times. Do you? If so, how is that working for you?
I also forgot that if I am not in the army, navy, or drink - then I must be un-american.

Why do I need to talk about their imaging and put up graphs if you already know their capabilities. Do you need something like that in order to tell you they are good speakers?

Excuse me for having opinions - guess young people like me need to listen to old people regardless of what they say, just because they have years on them. Give me a break, did you listen to your elders at 22? I think NOT! They would have told you - Seawolf, to not enter the service.

I get the point -
I will crawl back into my hole and shut up.
But I would like to say one thing - it seems as though everyone else can have their opinions on speakers and modifications, but since I am not a DIY and I rave about the Altecs whenever I can - that makes me a bad poster?
Whatever.
-Storm.

but in my opinion, I don't owe anyone for anything that this country has given to me. I oppose wars, so why should I join one? So I can get into your little club?

Look in the mirror.
I am doing just fine and mean everything I have said.
-Storm.


And even CLMRT told you:

"Shame on you. You fart in someone's thread then make it everyone else's fault for having noses.

I don't normally pick on people but this is exceptional. I landed a nice set of JBL's once and suddenly felt endowed with knowledge and had oats to sow - until I realized a few posts into my endeavor that I am NOT an encyclopedia. I continue to read and learn because I have an interest in the efforts of Lansing and his heritage.

Please stop your evangelical rants."


AND YOU STILL CAN'T GET ANYBODY'S HINTS.

Zilch has gently tried, you refuse to accept what MANY are telling you.

Storm
02-09-2007, 09:40 PM
Seawolf,

Your entire OHM F thread is an example of your bs too.

Get off your high horse.

I have opinions, get over it.

-Storm.

SEAWOLF97
02-09-2007, 10:00 PM
Seawolf,

Your entire OHM F thread is an example of your bs too.

Get off your high horse.

I have opinions, get over it.

-Storm.


:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

macaroonie
02-10-2007, 06:51 AM
really want to go drinkin some night and sort it all out between yourselves.
Somewhere in Canada where nobody can hear you....:p

jim campbell
02-10-2007, 07:09 AM
really want to go drinkin some night and sort it all out between yourselves.
Somewhere in Canada where nobody can hear you....:p
spoken like a true scotsman....

loach71
02-10-2007, 11:55 AM
really want to go drinkin some night and sort it all out between yourselves.
Somewhere in Canada where nobody can hear you....:p


You two should arrange an Atec 19 vs. Ohm F party -- with lots of booze!
I'll attend -- will even bring some BGW gear...:D

macaroonie
02-11-2007, 06:47 AM
Its gone all nice and quiet. :D

spwal
02-11-2007, 10:23 AM
storm...

just looking at your gear in your signature... you really should consider upgrading, even if it is just to try.

get something expensive but liquid that you wont take a loss on. You owe it to yourself man.

That old altec reciever really isnt going to do it for you.

You owe it to yourself to get a broader education. This isnt about jbl and altec, this is about getting the most out of the speakers you have, which you currently are not doing.

This forum is not all engrossed in expensive gear-- i think that is actually a good thing -- but there IS alot of very nice stuff out there. You owe it to yourself to cut through the bs and try something "high-end"

JBLRaiser
02-11-2007, 12:26 PM
storm...

just looking at your gear in your signature... you really should consider upgrading, even if it is just to try.

get something expensive but liquid that you wont take a loss on. You owe it to yourself man.

That old altec reciever really isnt going to do it for you.

You owe it to yourself to get a broader education. This isnt about jbl and altec, this is about getting the most out of the speakers you have, which you currently are not doing.

This forum is not all engrossed in expensive gear-- i think that is actually a good thing -- but there IS alot of very nice stuff out there. You owe it to yourself to cut through the bs and try something "high-end"

The tube stuff is great and can be resold for a nice profit if you don't like it. Dynaco's solid state ain't bad either. There are plenty of other vintage names to take you up the latter. Give them a try Storm, when the money is there. It's a fun journey.

P.S. I'm not finished with my speaker journey either. The 19's will stay, but I'd love to try the L300's.

spwal
02-11-2007, 07:52 PM
Storm---

Get a Pass Labs Aleph. It will make you VERY VERY happy. It is unlike anything out there.

macaroonie
02-11-2007, 08:42 PM
I've met Nelson when he had Threshold in Sacramento WOW were they dedicated to quality. More semiconductors in the dumpster than transients.
:p

Storm
02-12-2007, 11:54 AM
:blah:

Hey there guys -

Went to Jack's house Sunday and wow, what a treat!

Thanks Jack for your hositality. My dad said the beer was excellent.

Awesome receiver. Replaced my Harman/Kardon last night and incredible difference. This is going to be a keeper for sure.

My dad bought an Altec 711B receiver so I could have this one. This one was going to be his, but I decided I wanted it - love the cabinet, incredible!

Indeed, what a collection!

JBLs and Altecs, along with receivers - Marantz especially, but a few more in the garage.

Zilch, what a fine job on those JBLs! They sound fantastic! However, I am still loving my Altecs. However, if a pair fell into my lap - I sure would not toss them to the side.

Jack has three pairs of 846A speakers - I was very impressed. I was astonished and amazed at the craftmanship of the piece in his avatar. Incredible!

True audio enthusiast and a wonderful guy!

Thank you Jack for allowing me into your home - it is beautiful.

It was a pleasure meeting you.

The weather was beautiful - about 65 degrees and a little windy.

I have a couple of pictures of my visit if anyone is interested. However, I would like jack to let me know if I am able to post them.

Thank you.

-Storm.

Zilch
02-12-2007, 12:10 PM
Zilch, what a fine job on those JBLs! They sound fantastic!Thanks, Storm. It was Jack that built them, of course; all I did was provide the concept. I'm certainly glad you liked them.

If a pair fell into my lap - I sure would not toss them to the side.Heh. We'll watch for a pair of suitable empty cabinets local to you and convert you into a DIY guy. :thmbsup:

*****

I hope Jack'll say it's O.K. to post the pics, 'cause your adventures of discovery are always enjoyable here....

hjames
02-12-2007, 12:19 PM
I'd love to see the pics too - I ran across pics of his speakers last year when searching for something else - they are fine looking!
http://audioheritage.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=6964&page=2&highlight=JackGiff


The pics I saw before of that Altec receiver you got looked very nice, but I'll admit, I do prefer that rosewood to the burled wood. Enjoy!

jackgiff
02-12-2007, 05:47 PM
I don't have any secrets that might be revealed by Storms pictures. At least not that I know of. I might get demerits if he shows my home theatre speakers. They are not JBL's.

Storm and his dad, Andy, visited on Sunday afternoon, and we had a very enjoyable visit. It was good to meet them, and to show off some of my stuff. And Andy and I drank a glass of Porter, which went a long way toward cementing the friendship.

So lets see those pics, Storm.

Storm
02-12-2007, 07:23 PM
Thanks Jack!

I greatly appreciate you letting me share the pictures. There is only about 8 or so.

I had a wonderful time and so did my dad.

Pictures below and in another post as well.

:)

-Storm.

Storm
02-12-2007, 07:26 PM
What a treat!

These speakers were very nice. And nice job Sonofagun on the grilles, they are awesome!

I had a wonderful time.

Jack - the 704 is hooked up to my DirecTV, phono, and cd player. I could not be more happier with the sound.

Overall, much more smoother...

Thanks again - I had a blast!

I greatly appreciate that CD too - going to pop it in the cd player tonite.

:)

-Storm.

spwal
02-13-2007, 06:48 PM
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If you dont like it you wont lose a dime.

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spwal
02-13-2007, 07:14 PM
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PS;I noticed since,that one mono has a replacement on and off switch...

jblnut
02-13-2007, 07:54 PM
Can the 250TIs shake the house?

-Storm.

Ask my neighbors (who don't even live that close to me...) :)

It's kind of like buying a computer for the calculator program though. The computer is capable of just a bit more than adding and subtracting...


jblnut

Zilch
02-14-2007, 12:29 PM
You dad looks like he was enjoying taking it all in, Storm.

Good thing you brought him along.... :thmbsup: