LOOKY LOOKY WHAT I GOT............

[SUPERBEE]

A decent set of little H.H. Scott S-17 bookshelf speakers. Everything works. I will post pictures after a grille repair I did is finished.These little guys sound great and look cool. Will make someone a great bedroom rig I would guess.

[SUPERBEE]

Her'Tis

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-11/1112667/DSCN3819.JPG

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-11/1112667/DSCN3820.JPG

[jim campbell]

theres a second hand shop with some hk speakers that look like that.worth a look?

[SUPERBEE]

theres a second hand shop with some hk speakers that look like that.worth a look?

Yup, If you get them for under $25 sometimes they can RAWK!

[SEAWOLF97]

Yup, If you get them for under $25 sometimes they can RAWK!

I had a pair of those with original paperwork still on the backs , sounded pretty good. heavy little guys.

[SUPERBEE]

I had a pair of those with original paperwork still on the backs , sounded pretty good. heavy little guys.
Sounds/looks like these little guys. I am impressed with how much sound they make.

[SEAWOLF97]

Sounds/looks like these little guys. I am impressed with how much sound they make.

US made Scott and Fisher are quite nice , too bad asian production ruined those names.

[Nightbrace]

HH Scott speakers are superb for the money, I've never spent more than $40 for a pair.. Awesome for an extra room, the cabinets are well built and for their size are excellent.. Bass response is poor, but midrange is superb. Not to be confused with Fisher speakers which were horrible.

[Nightbrace]

BTW< Only the pre-1970 speakers were any good. Have heard a 1971 speaker, looked the same, but sounded terrible, not exactly sure why, but thats when they switched over to SS and were bought out overseas.. I have had S-10's and S-15's both stellar performers and with a subwoofer can actually be somewhat decent... The highs roll off fairly soon, but as I said, the midrange is superb. You might be quite surprised by them. I was!

[SEAWOLF97]

Not to be confused with Fisher speakers which were horrible.

Not to start anything , NB , (in fact its nice to see you back) , but have you ever heard these Fishers ?

http://www.audioheritage.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=13992

At least as good as L100's, if not slightly better.

[jim campbell]

Sounds/looks like these little guys. I am impressed with how much sound they make.
they are hk 20's and i think i can git em for 20 bucks

[SEAWOLF97]

they are hk 20's and i think i can git em for 20 bucks

I really liked my HK40s also...If I told you what I paid for them, S wud acuse me of lying, again. :(

"STRATOPHONIC" , no less...

[Nightbrace]

Not to start anything , NB , (in fact its nice to see you back) , but have you ever heard these Fishers ?

http://www.audioheritage.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=13992

At least as good as L100's, if not slightly better.

Thanks Seawolf, was really busy the past couple days, and am regretting not checking in as I missed a pair of Altec A7's because of it :(..

Never heard those, they are really neat,. I wasn't comparing Fisher to the L100.. nor can they be compared, 2 different schools of thought. In many ways the HH Scotts I have heard were more enjoyable than the L100's. Probably the same way you feel about the Fisher's. but to say that they are "better" cannot be true, better at something's, and more enjoyable maybe, but its like comparing an apple to an orange.

Pre-1970 HH Scott speakers are just a very pleasing speaker to listen to, and make poorer tracks sound "decent", but they don't sing like the L100's can with the proper gear and material... The HH Scotts sound flat out boring with GREAT material in comparison and I'd imagine those Fisher's to be the same, and at BEST a little worse than the Scotts. They NEVER did speakers well, nor do I imagine those to be much different than the ones I have heard. Unless something really special happened with those. As you know the quality of the cabinets was superb, but Fisher was never really known for great speakers (nor was HH Scott for that matter), but I have to go on what I've heard... And although I'd agree that your Fisher's will make more bass and probably better highs I honestly doubt the midrange will be anywhere near the pre-70 HH Scott speakers even if you happened to find the best speaker FIsher ever built.

This might sound insane, but there are certain things I hear with the Scotts that I have not heard on any other speaker, I can only attribute this to the fact that they are very colored in the midrange, but this coloration is what makes them very musical. I said it before, and for under $50, I cannot imagine finding a more pleasing speaker overall. Supplemented with a subwoofer they are fantastic.. The highs do roll off pretty quickly, but not too soon to be a "major" concern. The highs are similiar to KLH, or Advent, but IMO, the midrange is better than either and certainly better than anything Fisher..

Have always wanted a BIG HH Scott speaker as the bass response was poor with the ones I've heard. Shouldn't be a problem with those Fisher's though :). Fisher speakers made decent bass. HH Scott made a 15" woofer in a 4.0 cu. ft. cabinet with the same mids and tweeters as my S-15's. I'd LOVE to have those.

Do the Fisher's you mentioned in the thread you posted sound similiar to Advent or KLH? You described them as being closer to JBL. I have never heard a Fisher speaker that sounded anything like JBL.. They sounded like Pioneer or Sansui speakers which to me were also poor... Although Pioneer did make a L100 equivalent an HPM-100 I think?? Which was pretty decent..

I forgot to comment about my Dynaco A-25 XL's.. About the best sounding non Altec/JBL booksehlf speaker I've ever heard. For their size they are phenomenal... A bit more musical than the Scotts even (although not "quite" as good in the midrange) with superb bass and excellent highs with none of the roll-off issues. While Dynaco too wasn't known as being a speaker company they commissioned Seas for the woofers and tweeters and put their label on them.. And I'm told Seas even designed the cabinets as well along with the idea of the aperiodic principle in which they utilized a sqaure port which took care of any resonance issues for such a small cabinet for better more articulate bass. I never had ANY reason to ask for MORE bass and in fact the bass "reads" as if the cabinet were twice as big...

[SEAWOLF97]

Do the Fisher's you mentioned in the thread you posted sound similiar to Advent or KLH? You described them as being closer to JBL. I have never heard a Fisher speaker that sounded anything like JBL.. They sounded like Pioneer or Sansui speakers which to me were also poor... Although Pioneer did make a L100 equivalent an HPM-100 I think?? Which was pretty decent..

these Fishers have an 8 in. mid , huge dome HF, an accordian pleated 12 in LF. The xp10 is quite common, but this xp12 is hard to find any nfo on the web. Nice cabinets. I cud live with them , if I didnt have better available.
Guy who sold them to me emailed today, asking if he cud buy them back.
I too, had never heard a decent Fisher, until these. Lots of unknown quasi-gems out there.

Never liked KLHs, but some Advents are nice, but these sound more like a laid back JBL. (yea, thats an oxymoron for sure)

[Nightbrace]

these Fishers have an 8 in. mid , huge dome HF, an accordian pleated 12 in LF. The xp10 is quite common, but this xp12 is hard to find any nfo on the web. Nice cabinets. I cud live with them , if I didnt have better available.
Guy who sold them to me emailed today, asking if he cud buy them back.
I too, had never heard a decent Fisher, until these. Lots of unknown quasi-gems out there.

Never liked KLHs, but some Advents are nice, but these sound more like a laid back JBL. (yea, thats an oxymoron for sure)

Looks like you found a diamond in the rough, and I agree that there are some "quasi-gems" out there, the Dynacos I mentioned are an example. And that brings to mind the Infinity Column II's I had. I never heard an Infinity that I liked till I heard those..

By the way, if you like Advent and don't like KLH, then you don't know what you like. In many ways, they are the same speaker.. I did not put AR into this category, but they are similiar sounding.. but to me not as good as either, but they too have that New England sound.

To me, just about every speaker designed by Henry Kloss is more or less the same speaker.. The differences were very minor, and at times only the size of the cabinet (and the increased bass output) was different. Even when the brand changed. Advent's "fried-egg" tweeters were a bit unique sounding, but you'd have to be "nuts" to call Advent and KLH totally different... Just slightly tweaked. Like the difference between a JBL LE20 tweeter and a LE25. I'm told there are palpable differences, but they are so close as to be almost one in the same.. And I think that Advent and KLH can be thought of in the same way. the transducers changed, but the resulatnt sound was "almost" the same. And if you like Advent 'better', its probably because you have gotten a better impression of them over the years and have not actually listened to both speakers side by side.

I owned The Large Advent, Advent 2 and 2 different models of KLH, I'm thinking model's 14 and 17? Well the moral of the story, is that they were virtually one in the same, despite the different logo and different transducers. And I guess it makes sense as one guy desgined them both.

I am having a hard time understanding what your Fisher's sound like. Are they more like Advent/KLH, more like JBL? Have you ever heard Boston Acoustics?? They made some GREAT speakers in the 80's. Not sure if Henry Kloss was involved with them as well, but they sounded like a "supercharged" Advent/KLH to me. With similiar characteristics, but better everything. Are they more like Pioneer or Sansui speakers (which I have always associated as being similiar and similiar to the Fisher's as well).. What I'm getting at is that are these "gems" more New England sound, west-coast monitor sound, or somewhere in the middle?

From what you have described they are "uniquely enjoyable" and are not to be compared with any of these speakers. I'm just trying to get an idea of what they sound like as I am the proud owner of 2 Fisher receivers and a Fisher int. amp and it would be neat to have a set of "listenable" Fisher speakers to go with one of them... So far the ones I've tried have been poor to say the least. And I'm happy that you agree :).

[Nightbrace]

these sound more like a laid back JBL. (yea, thats an oxymoron for sure)

As are most post-1980 "JBL" speakers. They are definitely "laid back" in comparison to 70's JBL.

[SEAWOLF97]

As are most post-1980 "JBL" speakers. They are definitely "laid back" in comparison to 70's JBL.

got to admit, I've never heard any classic KLH's, only the modern black ash junk.

The Fishers are 1966 vintage and prolly gone. I never really listened to them for any extended period. Just demoed for about 20 minutes. They are livable, but in a different class than what I'm currently using.

Have sold a few pair of Advents. They were always "musical" with decent HF (in fact the person that bought them said they were better than the competing JBL 2 way 8 in monitor...4301 ?) , and yes I wud have been in heaven to get these 30 years ago.

[Nightbrace]

What happened to the Fisher's? Yeah, the 80's KLH was all crap.. Not to be confused with their earlier offerings.

4301 vs. Advent? Was it the original Large Advent or the Advent II's? Did they have the patented "fried-egg" tweeter? Highs could not be more different. JBL crisp and defined, versus Advent, naturally smooth rolled off highs. Mids are actually similiar and both quote musical (despite the fact that they are 2-ways) with totally different drivers, but the overall timbre of the Advents will sound slightly warmer and more neutral. The bass is totally different, JBL being precise and articulate and Advent being a bit softer and boomy,, Both equally pleasing in their own right, but totally different...

[SEAWOLF97]

What happened to the Fisher's? 4301 vs. Advent? Was it the original Large Advent or the Advent II's? .

guy who sold me the Fishers wants to buy them back

Advent was called "the Advent loudspeaker" , but wasnt "THE large " or II's. Am currently restoring some Advent 1's and Prodigy 2's.

[Nightbrace]

guy who sold me the Fishers wants to buy them back

Advent was called "the Advent loudspeaker" , but wasnt "THE large " or II's. Am currently restoring some Advent 1's and Prodigy 2's.

Wish you weren't so far, I'd love to hear those Fisher's. Shipping wouldn't be worth it either. I never liked the "newer" Advents... They probably sound similiar, but not as good... JBL 4301's would definitley be much better. Boston Acoustics were definitely better than Advent if your into that type of sound (Henry Kloss, New England sound) Too bad their cabinets looked so chinsy. The sound was actually really good.. Again, I wouldn't doubt that he worked for Boston Acoustics, or perhaps was a partial owner.. as the sound was SO similiar. Does anyone know?

[SEAWOLF97]

Boston Acoustics were definitely better than Advent if your into that type of sound (Henry Kloss, New England sound) Too bad their cabinets looked so chinsy.

I've parted a number of BA's . worst cabinets I've ever seen. horrendous.

Got a guy coming over to look at my little EV7's, so they's hooked up and playing. Cant believe how good these 2 way 8 iners sound. Cool rattan grills.

[Nightbrace]

I've parted a number of BA's . worst cabinets I've ever seen. horrendous.

Got a guy coming over to look at my little EV7's, so they's hooked up and playing. Cant believe how good these 2 way 8 iners sound. Cool rattan grills.

I agree, those BA cabinets were horrendous.. Those are neat :)

[SEAWOLF97]

I agree, those BA cabinets were horrendous.. Those are neat :)

sold immediately...sounded much bigger than their size.

been using Beatles LOVE cd to demo, gets them everytime.

[Nightbrace]

"All you need is LOVE" :D

Like my "reference" system?? Its not really my reference system, but it is when it comes to anything Altec or JBL.

How do I put my fav JBL set-up on the other side?

[SEAWOLF97]

"All you need is LOVE" :D


and cash.

no tuners anymore, XM is just so much better

have a pristine DUAL DD TT 701 with V15Mk4 that hasn't even geen played in last 10 years :(

under-the-house speaker wire pulling party manana.:bouncy:

gotta get up ads for the HK40's , speakerlab .1's , polk monitors , cs-33a's,wharfdale, cs-53a, Marantz hd77, marantz hd707, Sony transmission lines, B&O 2 pairs., 12 pairs Infinitys, AR3's,cs-77a's ...need room to walk around the house...:o:

[SEAWOLF97]

EV's sold immediately...

and sold the JBL P-10s. not too bad for a 4 in. LF and titanium coated HF

[SUPERBEE]

The H.H. Scotts are for sale. I can not keep everything.

[Nightbrace]

which ones, the speakers or the Pre-amp-tuner-amp combo?

[SUPERBEE]

which ones, the speakers or the Pre-amp-tuner-amp combo?
The speakers. I will never sell the amp pre-amp combo.

[doucanoe]

SUPERBEE, I had a pair of the Scott S-15's up until recently. I was really shocked how good they sounded for what they were. A friend ended up with them and uses them happily in a small room system. If I came across another nice pair or the S-17's like yours, I would pick them up in a heartbeat.

RC

[Nightbrace]

The speakers. I will never sell the amp pre-amp combo.

I can't say that I blame you. Its an awesome piece.

[Nightbrace]

SUPERBEE, I had a pair of the Scott S-15's up until recently. I was really shocked how good they sounded for what they were. A friend ended up with them and uses them happily in a small room system. If I came across another nice pair or the S-17's like yours, I would pick them up in a heartbeat.

RC

His are for sale, make him an offer. I agree completely about the S-15's I LOVE them, great for a small room or for easy listening material.

[SUPERBEE]

SUPERBEE, I had a pair of the Scott S-15's up until recently. I was really shocked how good they sounded for what they were. A friend ended up with them and uses them happily in a small room system. If I came across another nice pair or the S-17's like yours, I would pick them up in a heartbeat.

RC

"You have a PM"

I can't say that I blame you. Its an awesome piece.

I will post pics of the H.H. Scott / JBL L-100 rig in the bedroom WITH the new grilles when I get em.

[Nightbrace]

Too baad about those L100's on eBay, they went a bit higher than I wanted to spend, I got a new speaker that I'm building for the bedroom anyways... Did you get my call?? Thanks for offering your help.. And if for some reason you ever want to sell that HH Scott 355 please let me know, I hope that your HH Scott speakers go to a good home.