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hnm1
01-14-2007, 08:22 PM
Hi to all ,excellent forum ! I have had a set of jbl 250 ti powered by a citation 7.1 for a couple of years and am know looking to add a sub.I have a chance to buy the B-460.Is this the ultimate woofer to own with these speakers or are there others that are better? I have a 2nd citation 7.1 and would use that to power the sub, any info would be appreciated.

Zilch
01-14-2007, 08:31 PM
http://www.lansingheritage.org/html/jbl/specs/home-speakers/1982-l250-b460.htm

Robh3606
01-14-2007, 08:32 PM
Hello

Welcome to the forum. That would be a nice combo. Take a look at this

http://www.lansingheritage.org/html/jbl/specs/home-speakers/1982-l250-b460.htm

Rob:)

Titanium Dome
01-15-2007, 09:08 AM
Rob and Zilch, are you both Geminis? You're thinking and acting as one.

hnm1, the Citation 7.1 is a wonderful amp, the successor to the Fosgate Audionics 4125 one of the most bulletproof, multichannel, bridgeable amps of all time.

The B460 is an impressive sub, made to go with the L250. Since the LEH14-1 woofer in both the L250 and 250Ti crossover at 400 Hz, the B460 will integrate virtually the same with either. By the time the 250Ti was in its later stages of production, there were other JBL subs that didn't take up as much real estate or weren't as visually dominant as a B460, but as I said, it is quite impressive. If you can get one, it is a piece of history and still highly desired by many.

Be sure you get the BX63a crossover with it. It's a separate unit, a little black box.

Andyoz
01-15-2007, 09:45 AM
http://www.lansingheritage.org/html/jbl/specs/home-speakers/1982-l250-b460.htm

I was just checking out the picture of the B460 on page 4 of the catalogue and thought for minute...is that a DAT case shown on top of the cabinet.

Hang on, they weren't around then and then realised it's a full size cassette case...oh that thing is BIG !!

"Hmn1", what's the price of the one you are looking to buy?

Zilch
01-15-2007, 10:22 AM
Hang on, they weren't around then and then realised it's a full size cassette case...oh that thing is BIG !!Compare to a pair of 4430s:

[4425s, actually.... :p ]

Titanium Dome
01-15-2007, 02:42 PM
Compare to a pair of 4430s:

[4425s, actually.... :p ]

Either way, it takes up a lot of space. It's not only wide and deep, it's pretty darn tall, too.

leif
01-16-2007, 05:03 AM
I like my sub, and think it will be a good match with the Ti250
I use mine with a pair of 4430.
You can see some pictures of my things on this link:
http://avforum.no/minhifi/show.php/imm

I have tried with different placing of the B460, and I even tried to put it on the side in the corner. WOW, then you realised how big it is.
Standing like it is supposed to, I dont find it dominating. It is actually a nice piece of furniture.

Leif

hnm1
01-16-2007, 12:51 PM
"Hmn1", what's the price of the one you are looking to buy?

Thanks for all the excellent info! The guy is asking 1500 usd which i thought was a little pricey but these beasts are hard to find.Not sure if it is worth it or not what is yer take on it.

hnm1
01-16-2007, 12:53 PM
Rob and Zilch, are you both Geminis? You're thinking and acting as one.

hnm1, the Citation 7.1 is a wonderful amp, the successor to the Fosgate Audionics 4125 one of the most bulletproof, multichannel, bridgeable amps of all time.

The B460 is an impressive sub, made to go with the L250. Since the LEH14-1 woofer in both the L250 and 250Ti crossover at 400 Hz, the B460 will integrate virtually the same with either. By the time the 250Ti was in its later stages of production, there were other JBL subs that didn't take up as much real estate or weren't as visually dominant as a B460, but as I said, it is quite impressive. If you can get one, it is a piece of history and still highly desired by many.

Be sure you get the BX63a crossover with it. It's a separate unit, a little black box.

Thanks for the info,I love my citation 7.1 it got tons of power . I will have to check and see if the B-460 comes with this crossover.

hnm1
01-16-2007, 12:59 PM
I like my sub, and think it will be a good match with the Ti250
I use mine with a pair of 4430.
You can see some pictures of my things on this link:
http://avforum.no/minhifi/show.php/imm

I have tried with different placing of the B460, and I even tried to put it on the side in the corner. WOW, then you realised how big it is.
Standing like it is supposed to, I dont find it dominating. It is actually a nice piece of furniture.


Leif ,nice pics, I had the nac pa5 amp at one time and found it very ,very acurate and powerful.I perfer the tube type of sound and have since switched to the citation 7.1.To warm for some but sweet to my ears.

Andyoz
01-17-2007, 06:32 AM
I would have thought $1,500 is a good price if it's in good condition. If it is in excellent condition and has the BX63 crossover then you could be getting a bit of a bargain perhaps?

I understand the type of crossover has a bearing on price but others here can advise if you find out what the seller has/hasn't got. Do a search for B460 on this forum and you may get some prices paid over the years. Here's one I turned up in 60 seconds worth of searching.

http://audioheritage.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=12338&highlight=b460

Hmmm, after reading that I think you should buy it provided the condition and crossover are all OK.

Is the seller local to you?

majick47
01-17-2007, 07:51 AM
If everything checks out ok you will never lose any money on the B460, they are rare and desirable. Still kicking myself on passing on a local sale of a B460 for $800 or b/o.

Andyoz
01-17-2007, 08:04 AM
Personally, I'd love one and would be prepared to pay $1,500 if a decent one ever came up. I reckon you could count the total number of B460's in the UK/Ireland on one hand!

Is there any way of getting photos from the seller to post here?

leif
01-17-2007, 09:49 AM
I would have paid 1500 if I had the money and that the speaker were in very good condition. And including the BX63/63a

I would love to have a second one, but for all the years I have followed ads (12 years or so) I have only seen one for sale here in Norway. And that is the one I have.

Leif

hnm1
01-19-2007, 07:21 PM
Is the seller local to you?

The B-460 is in Texas .big bucks to ship to Vancouver Canada.

hnm1
01-19-2007, 07:22 PM
Is there any way of getting photos from the seller to post here?

I will have to ask the seller.I will see what i can do!

Andyoz
01-20-2007, 01:18 AM
The B-460 is in Texas .big bucks to ship to Vancouver Canada.

If you do go ahead with it, make sure you check out the thread on here re. proper packing methods.

http://audioheritage.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=10246

hammerjack105
01-08-2008, 02:22 PM
Hello

Welcome to the forum. That would be a nice combo. Take a look at this

http://www.lansingheritage.org/html/jbl/specs/home-speakers/1982-l250-b460.htm

Rob:)
Can the B460 be used with the JBL L250ti speakers? Just curious. If so, how would I hook the 460 up? Let me know. Thanks.

Robh3606
01-08-2008, 03:13 PM
Just read what's in the link

Rob:)

mikebake
01-08-2008, 05:53 PM
.Is this the ultimate woofer to own with these speakers or are there others that are better?
After all these years, the 2245H is still an excellent VLF device. Still hard to find something better than one of these properly implemented. Two of them is the way to go.