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bear-hifi
12-10-2006, 09:55 AM
Its that bullet tweeter thats got me confusedů :dont-know

bear-hifi
12-10-2006, 11:12 AM
The woofer is a LE15A and the horn is a LE18 and the tweeter is a 2402H.

bear-hifi
12-10-2006, 11:39 AM
I think they are JBL Pro C-50 Studio Monitors with S8 components

http://cgi.ebay.com/JBL-Pro-C50-S8-Speakers-375-075-LE15A-LX5-N7000-Tube_W0QQitemZ280054369037QQihZ018QQcategoryZ61377 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item280 054369037

BMWCCA
12-10-2006, 12:22 PM
Personally, I think they look home-built. That was one of the plans in the old JBL speaker construction kit. I've still got that kit somewhere, the one with the vacuum-molded white plastic cover on the box. I'm sure someone has a link to that kit..but I digress. They just have that home-built look to them, to me (I built one, once). Others here are better able to judge that than me, though.

Zilch
12-10-2006, 12:36 PM
S8 would have 375 mid driver.

I have no clue what LE18 is....

bear-hifi
12-10-2006, 12:44 PM
S8 would have 375 mid driver.

I have no clue what LE18 is....


Sorry, it was LE85.

Zilch
12-10-2006, 12:51 PM
Sorry, it was LE85.It's UHF augmented S7 then.... :thmbsup:

I note the red wax seals are missing on the LE85, so the actual diaphragms in place are "indeterminate," unless that additional label on the rear of it tells the specifics....

mech986
12-10-2006, 04:12 PM
From same quote at AK


Hi, some clarification for you.

The C50SM S8 was a JBL consumer/semipro model. It had the C50SM Studio monitor cabinet with the LE15 woofer, type 375 4 inch VC 2 inch throat compression driver and H93 2 inch throat short horn and L91 slant lenses. The Tweeter would be the 075 bullet. The appropriate 2 crossovers would be included. The cabinet was silver gray or unfinished.

The 4320/early 4331/4333 was the Walnut cabinet pro version which looks like yours with the cutout sides and top/bottom enclosed frame. Is there an identifying badge on the back of the cabinet at all? Would have a 450x-WX type identifier.

Anyway, Likely you have the 4320 which originally was 2 way design with the LE15A driver (has already been refoamed with a more modern grey foam). You have the consumer LE85 midrange compression drivers (pro equivalent 2420) with the likely H91 horns (Pro = 2311) and L91 older style slant lenses that are screwed onto the baffle (pro = 2308). The cabinet had an opening for extra tweeter mounting if that modification was desired later.

http://www.lansingheritage.org/images/jbl/catalogs/1974-pro/page03.jpg

BTW, the early 4331/4333 with same cabinet were loaded with the then new 2331 (consumer 136) alnico woofer.

http://www.lansingheritage.org/html/jbl/catalogs/1974-pro.htm

The most common tweeter add-on was the 075/2402 alnico bullet tweeter. The slot tweeter had not been produced until later with the L300/L65 and the later 4333 series monitors.

Can't say whether your speakers originally were loaded up this way or were maybe assembled/reassembled to this configuration. However, the configuration is a typical JBL combination. Add to that your good condition grilles and seemingly decent veneer and you done good!!

You didn't tell us the really juicy part? What'd they cost 'ya?

Regards,
Bart

Maron Horonzakz
12-11-2006, 08:11 AM
Home built unit..That metal grill over the woofer is not stock. Ive never seen the cabinet veneered.

hjames
12-11-2006, 08:41 AM
Home built unit..That metal grill over the woofer is not stock. Ive never seen the cabinet veneered.

Well, the woofer grill looks custom - but this image shows C50s in wood finish ...

Maron Horonzakz
12-11-2006, 08:47 AM
That grill frame is custom...It would have been painted black before applying grill cloth.;)

hjames
12-11-2006, 09:23 AM
That grill frame is custom...It would have been painted black before applying grill cloth.;)

Sure - I painted my grill frames flat black before I applied the deep blue Zilch cloth myself ... just looks better that way - tho dark wood through that tan cloth would have stood out too.

Maron Horonzakz
12-11-2006, 09:45 AM
That grill cloth is so transparent anything would show through...That is good sonicly.;)

mech986
12-11-2006, 11:21 AM
Home built unit..That metal grill over the woofer is not stock. Ive never seen the cabinet veneered.

Here's an image of the 4320's from the 1974 JBL Pro Catalog. Similar cabinets available for the earliest version of the 4330/4331 and 4332/4333 on the next 2 pages.

Regards,

Bart

http://www.lansingheritage.org/images/jbl/catalogs/1974-pro/page03.jpg

http://www.lansingheritage.org/images/jbl/catalogs/1974-pro/page03.jpg

mech986
12-11-2006, 11:23 AM
Well, the woofer grill looks custom - but this image shows C50s in wood finish ...

Nice Pic, similar to the 4310/4311/4312 evolution. Where did the picture come from, hadn't seen that one before.

Regards,

Bart

hjames
12-11-2006, 11:47 AM
Nice Pic, similar to the 4310/4311/4312 evolution. Where did the picture come from, hadn't seen that one before.

Regards,

Bart

Darned if I know - I downloaded it to my references folder a while back - but I assume its from somewhere in the Lansing Heritage Library.
I've collected all kinds of images of 4320 and similar speakers since I got mine (Feb 2006) ... part of my plans for long term upgrades and world domination. (http://audioheritage.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=137760#post137760)

short_circutz
12-13-2006, 03:41 AM
Personally, I think they look home-built. That was one of the plans in the old JBL speaker construction kit. I've still got that kit somewhere, the one with the vacuum-molded white plastic cover on the box. I'm sure someone has a link to that kit..but I digress. They just have that home-built look to them, to me (I built one, once). Others here are better able to judge that than me, though.
I have that exact kit sitting on a shelf in my basement.