JBL 4318???

[Robh3606]

Where did this come from?? Anyone else see this off the JBL Consumer Site??? I saw this link posted on AA. It's strange cause you can't get there from the normal Product Finder. There is no sub category for Studio Monitors??

http://www.jbl.com/home/products/product_detail.aspx?prod=000000000000004318&CheckProduct=Y


Rob:)

[Zilch]

From the manual:



"5. Attenuator Adjustment



Independent, continuous variable attenuators are used for each unit to adjust the MF (mid-frequencies) and HF (highfrequencies) levels to the speaker's woofer level. Make adjustments appropriate to the reverb in the actual room, and to your liking. In general, for most speakers, it takes about 1 – 2 months after initial use until the unit's vibration system yields optimum performance. As the level balance is expected to initially change with use, we recommend that you readjust the level accordingly."



:D



Neodymium 2213?

[boputnam]

30 cm pure pulp cone woofer 2213NdAnyone know anything about this 2213 do-over...? :hmm:

[Don McRitchie]

I'm not sure I understand your question: i.e. if you have never heard of this system before or if you are just wondering why it has just been listed on the US website.

For those who don't know, the system has been around for a few months, at least in Japan. It's the latest evolution of the 431x series that, without exaggeration, must be pushing two dozen variants by now. The fact that it shows up on the US website is likely a reflection of JBL President Paul Bente's strategy to move towards a single product line that is marketed globally as opposed to separate European, Asian and North American product lines.

[boputnam]

The fact that it shows up on the US website is likely a reflection of JBL President Paul Bente's strategy to move towards a single product line that is marketed globally...Nice.

Uh-oh... That means we ALL gotta restock! :rotfl:

[Robh3606]

I wasn't aware of it's existance and was surprised the link was to JBL Consumer and not the asian site.

Thanks Rob:)

[Don McRitchie]

The 2213nd was introduced in the 4312D last year - just another one of the dozens of 431x variants. It is a differential drive version of the venerable 2213H using a neodymium magnet and 3" coil.

Don

[Earl K]

- This model was first mentioned a couple of years back by "Eagle-Scout"; Herve .

- A recent link to its' tech sheet is here ! (http://audioheritage.csdco.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=107997&postcount=19) ( as well as a few others ).

- A neodym. 2213 ? I guess someone has to have these. ;)

:)

[boputnam]

Those Studio Monitors are tricky to find on the website.

I know of the 4348 but cannot seem to find it by "conventional" mousing around. So, I edited Rob's search string and found it...

http://www.jbl.com/home/products/product_detail.aspx?prod=000000000000004348&CheckProduct=Y

[JBLnsince1959]

The fact that it shows up on the US website is likely a reflection of JBL President Paul Bente's strategy to move towards a single product line that is marketed globally as opposed to separate European, Asian and North American product lines.

That would be cool if everything was available here to us also...

if so then most likely they are working on the web site creating the pages ( for testing and reviewing)and then will link them together at some time in the future.

This could really big news!!!!!!

keep testing and editing for other models too

[Thomax]

http://www.jbl.com/home/products/product_detail.aspx?prod=000000000000004318&CheckProduct=Y (http://www.jbl.com/home/products/product_detail.aspx?prod=000000000000004318&CheckProduct=Y)

http://www.jbl.com/home/products/product_detail.aspx?prod=000000000000004428&CheckProduct=Y (http://www.jbl.com/home/products/product_detail.aspx?prod=000000000000004428&CheckProduct=Y)

http://www.jbl.com/home/products/product_detail.aspx?prod=000000000000004338&CheckProduct=Y (http://www.jbl.com/home/products/product_detail.aspx?prod=000000000000004338&CheckProduct=Y)

http://www.jbl.com/home/products/product_detail.aspx?prod=000000000000004348&CheckProduct=Y (http://www.jbl.com/home/products/product_detail.aspx?prod=000000000000004348&CheckProduct=Y)

It also works with other models, such as the 4302, but there is no picture yet. :D

[edgewound]

For those who don't know, the system has been around for a few months, at least in Japan. It's the latest evolution of the 431x series that, without exaggeration, must be pushing two dozen variants by now. The fact that it shows up on the US website is likely a reflection of JBL President Paul Bente's strategy to move towards a single product line that is marketed globally as opposed to separate European, Asian and North American product lines.

Seems somebody....somebodies...have been paying attention.

[Zilch]

http://audioheritage.org/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=102255&postcount=11

**bows**

[Don McRitchie]

Just to be clear, this is a long term strategy that has been underway for around three years and continues to evolve. There is no final date, nor is it guaranteed, that JBL will end up with a single global product line. However, significant headway is being made. All engineering for significant JBL products is now being done in Northridge. The European product line (particularly Tik) has been discontinued in favor of Project Array which already is being marketed worldwide. Starting with S9800, all of the K2 systems are being made available in North America, as well as Japan.

BTW, the significant development that I referred to in the post that Zilch referenced above is not this. That development is still coming in September. Beyond that, I will say nothing more.

Don

[edgewound]

Hopefully...the significant development will be to re-arrange the organizational chart for ALL of JBL...both Professional, Consumer, and Int'l to be headquarted in Northridge, CA.

The singular most detrimental thing to happen to the JBL Brand name was the "New York" attitude....Bring it all back home.

[Phil H]

Are the 4318s and others available in the US? I can use the 'product finder' to locate them. And, I can go to www.jbl.com (http://www.jbl.com) and change locations to Japan and find them. But, they do not show up in the products section for the US market. Similarly, I can use product finder to locate the Balboa series available in Europe.

[Guido]

http://www.harman-japan.co.jp/product/jblhome/img/4318_ph.jpg

[JBLnsince1959]

Are the 4318s and others available in the US? I can use the 'product finder' to locate them. And, I can go to www.jbl.com (http://www.jbl.com) and change locations to Japan and find them. But, they do not show up in the products section for the US market. Similarly, I can use product finder to locate the Balboa series available in Europe.



Been playing around a few minutes with the JBL web site and here's what I think is happening, and at present I don't think it's anything to get excited about....

on the front page you can select 2 main things
1. Country - where you're at
2. language

for example say you're an American inJapan and you want to look at monitors available in Japan but you want to read it in English. Then select Japan for country and Enlish for language. Or Japan and Spanish etc

Looks like what they are doing is simply making the pages available in any language no matter what Country you're in.....Soooo there would now be English versions ( and other languages) for what's available in Japan.

Looks like they are centralizing their web site here in the US to work for all countries and languages..

NOW, they may make the speakers available in the US some day....But based on what i've seen there's no evidence for this...just good, efficient web design.

Only had a few minutes to look. I'll dig deeper into this when I get the time..

[Don McRitchie]

I agree with JBLsince1959. What used to be separate websites for a number of different countries now point to www.jbl.com where there seems to be a common database that serves up different products in different languages depending on what country you select.

Also, just to make sure that these is no misunderstanding about the "development" I referred to above, I can say that it is nothing so grand as a restructuring of JBL or anything else of that scale. If you go back to the post the Zilch referenced that started this tangential discussion, you will see that I was referring to something significant at my level.

Regard
Don

[edgewound]

Also, just to make sure that these is no misunderstanding about the "development" I referred to above, I can say that it is nothing so grand as a restructuring of JBL or anything else of that scale. If you go back to the post the Zilch referenced that started this tangential discussion, you will see that I was referring to something significant at my level.

Regard
Don

That sounds like a riddle....a clue of some sorts. Could it be that LHS will be directly linked from JBL's websites?...to bring together past customers, current users and prospective new customers?...to be used as a marketing tool?

Hmmmm...

[JBLnsince1959]

That sounds like a riddle....a clue of some sorts. Could it be that LHS will be directly linked from JBL's websites?...to bring together past customers, current users and prospective new customers?...to be used as a marketing tool?

Hmmmm...

Maybe they are working on a reference database that Giskard has wanted for so long and it will be available or linked to both web sites..( We can hope)

altho I'm not sure what JBL would gain by doing a database of their older stuff...I can see it for us. To do what Giskard wanted would take some big resources to so correctly.....

well, I'll stop quessing and just let everything unfold in it's own time..

I'm sure you will have something really good for us Don...

Now onto something else we can really get into.....