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toddrr
04-08-2006, 11:46 AM
http://www11.plala.or.jp/se_ke5583/JBL/speaker/

a thread to jbl speakers

Zilch
04-08-2006, 11:56 AM
I am surprised at the number of versions of 4312, including an apparent "roadworthy" one.... :)

JBL 4645
04-08-2006, 12:37 PM
http://www.audioheritage.org/images/jbl/extracts/thumbs/b460_small.jpg

My mouth was watering over that range of JBL loudspeakers most of them have professional grade components, must say I did like the JBL B460 yeah Id like to have two of them in the home cinema, but my trusty ole JBL 4645 is still able to do what its designed for, but Id still like to own two JBL B460, WOW.:)

jim campbell
04-08-2006, 04:32 PM
i wonder how much jbl was sold in japan and how much remains.could this be a rich vein to be mined?

QwertyAccess
04-13-2006, 07:10 PM
when japan buys a JBL speaker you never see it again :p

leif
04-14-2006, 01:42 PM
Yes, they have a lot of nice JBL stuff in Japan..
But actually, quite a lot of it happen to be up here in north also.
Norway, Sweden, Denmark...
As I have said before, within 25 minutes drive from my home, there is said to be 11 paragons! And you should see this place I live, it is no big city. it is countryside!

Leif Arild

http://avforum.no/minhifi/show.php/imm

glen
04-14-2006, 01:46 PM
when japan buys a JBL speaker you never see it again :p

But without the continuous support of the Japanese customers a lot of the newer models never have made it into production.

JBLnsince1959
04-14-2006, 02:37 PM
But without the continuous support of the Japanese customers a lot of the newer models never have made it into production.

:D give that man a cigar. you really hit the nail on the head...

Guido
04-14-2006, 02:49 PM
http://www11.plala.or.jp/se_ke5583/JBL/speaker/s4000.JPG

S4000

Any idea what tweeter is this ?

4313B
04-14-2006, 04:01 PM
0756H

Guido
04-15-2006, 02:57 AM
:bash: Dammit Giskard!

Do you have some more info about this speaker.
Ya know, we are all crazy to hear anything about speakers we can't afford or even get ;)

4313B
04-15-2006, 05:03 AM
Ya know, we are all crazy to hear anything about speakers we can't afford or even get ;)That's pretty much why I don't bother with the info. Very few, if any, on this forum will ever see or hear those.

Guido
04-17-2006, 01:04 PM
Message received.

During one of my next japan trips I'll check them myself.

OLDGEN
04-18-2006, 12:08 PM
i wonder how much jbl was sold in japan and how much remains.could this be a rich vein to be mined?

it is better that japanes buy jbl and not sony:blah:

duaneage
04-20-2006, 10:20 AM
Make your way to Akihabra in Tokyo and you'll find these small shops under the train tracks that have the most wonderful JBL products you can imagine but not buy here. In Osaka walk three blocks from the bullet train station and there are stereo shops with setups that look like Giskards avatar.

I regret not buying an Asian model when i lived there. I mistakenly assumed they were offered in the US and could buy when i got back.

Don McRitchie
04-21-2006, 08:42 AM
It should be noted that Harman Japan operates fairly independently within Harman International to the point that they commission their own design and manufacturing (mainly in China) for much of their product line. In other words, Northridge has nothing to do with most of the JBL branded speakers sold there. To my knowledge, the only exceptions for the JBL product line currently listed on Harman Japan's website (http://www.harman-japan.co.jp/products/jbl_cons/jblcindx.htm) are:

S9800
S5800
S4800
SK2-1000
HC5000
HB5000
4348
4328
4318
4312D
Project Array

Guido
04-21-2006, 02:22 PM
S9800
S5800
S4800
SK2-1000
HC5000
HB5000
4348
4328
4318
4312D
Project Array

Thanks for the insight Don. Your "exceptions" are the models that interests me the most.

jomina
04-22-2006, 06:49 AM
4348
4328
4318
4312D
Project Array
Hi,
I believe the 4338 is also made in Northridge. You write 4328, but do you actually mean 4428?

Joel - Tokyo (and 4338-curious)

4313B
04-22-2006, 07:12 AM
4318 Owner's Manual (http://manuals.harman.com/JBL/HOM/Owner%27s%20Manual/4318%20v2.pdf)

4318 Technical Manual (http://manuals.harman.com/JBL/HOM/Technical%20Sheet/4318%20ts.pdf)

4338 Troubleshooting Guide (http://manuals.harman.com/JBL/HOM/Do%20it%20yourself%20guides/4338%20Troubleshooting%20Guide.pdf)

4338 Owner's Manual (http://manuals.harman.com/JBL/HOM/Miscellaneous/4338%20v4.pdf)

4338 Technical Manual (http://manuals.harman.com/JBL/HOM/Technical%20Sheet/4338%20ts.pdf)

4348 Owner's Manual (http://manuals.harman.com/JBL/HOM/Owner%27s%20Manual/JBL%204348%20om.pdf)

4348 Technical Manual (http://manuals.harman.com/JBL/HOM/Technical%20Sheet/4348%20ts.pdf)

jomina
04-22-2006, 07:16 AM
4338 Troubleshooting Guide (http://manuals.harman.com/JBL/HOM/Do%20it%20yourself%20guides/4338%20Troubleshooting%20Guide.pdf)

4338 Owner's Manual (http://manuals.harman.com/JBL/HOM/Miscellaneous/4338%20v4.pdf)

4338 Technical Manual (http://manuals.harman.com/JBL/HOM/Technical%20Sheet/4338%20ts.pdf)

Thank you for that. Very useful, although I've already listened to a couple of pairs and want them :-)

Don McRitchie
04-22-2006, 07:22 AM
Hi,
I believe the 4338 is also made in Northridge. You write 4328, but do you actually mean 4428?

Joel - Tokyo (and 4338-curious)

You are right on both counts. My bad.

Don

glen
04-25-2006, 11:12 PM
And then there are the japanese designs than no branch of Harman International authorized, like these "4355"s

http://page5.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/e55196792

caladois
04-27-2006, 05:27 AM
I am planning to buy a pair of 4338 studio monitors in Japan. What do you think of these speakers ? Are they a good value ?
I mentionned they won't replace any other speakers in my system. So, comparing to 4333, 4430, K2 s4800 , are they suffering to be compare with ?

Regards from France

Stephane

jomina
04-27-2006, 07:12 AM
I am planning to buy a pair of 4338 studio monitors in Japan. What do you think of these speakers ? Are they a good value ?
Salut caladois,
They are among the best speakers I have ever heard. The 4338s combine the very low distortion and excellent neutrality of the 9800s with the kick and groove of the classic monitors.
A case of having one's cake and eating it.
They are voiced for Japan, though - essentially rolled early in the bass to compensate for the room gain typical of our concrete hutches. However, brilliant dynamics and leading edges more than make up IMO.
I'm saving up.

Joel - Tokyo

Guido
04-27-2006, 11:29 AM
NICE!

But 4500 Euro is steep

http://www.harman-japan.co.jp/products/jbl_cons/image_jc/4338a.jpg

Guido
04-27-2006, 11:32 AM
4328

I sure would like those (1600 Euro)

BUT no!!!! I have enough speakers :biting:
http://www.harman-japan.co.jp/products/jbl_cons/image_jc/4428-1.jpg

jomina
04-27-2006, 01:21 PM
NICE!

But 4500 Euro is steep


And that's the price per speaker... They are expensive, but in audio terms very good value.
I am tempted by the "small" ones. I can actually just about afford those :D
Need to get a good listen first, though.

hapy._.face
04-27-2006, 05:45 PM
The 4428 has a 1200Fe in it. Is the compression driver a 435Al? And the UHF? Looks like a take on the Array. If so, this is not that expensive at the retail price.

jomina
04-28-2006, 04:21 PM
The 4428 has a 1200Fe in it. Is the compression driver a 435Al? And the UHF? Looks like a take on the Array. If so, this is not that expensive at the retail price. Hi,
The driver complement is as follows:
1200FE-8 30cm driver
175-ND2 50mm "pure Titan" compression driver + biradial horn
015M 19mm "polypropylene ring radiator" + biradial horn
This info is from the Harman JP site.

Titanium Dome
04-28-2006, 08:10 PM
Look, ma, JBL blue!